If being an unaligned country with a large army is no deterrent to Putin's ambitions is it time for ROI to join Nato?
I sense this is satire.... :D
At least you didn't run away like some.
It isn't 'tinfoil hat stuff'. It is a suspicion based on the undeniable fact that A)
Arms company and military influence over government warps government priorities, leading to the promotion of corporate interests over policies that would protect the security of people in the UK and elsewhere.
and
B) If members of NATO refused to sell arms to the Saudis that conflict with the Yemen would probably not be possible.So they are 'keeping conflict going' in effect.
Germany seem to have a policy of not supplying arms into conflict zones. Not so with the UK who will break their own rules and international rules to do it to keep their arms industry in production and therefore conflict.
Now, are you willing to get Ireland involved with a country that will play fast and loose with the law (FACT)?
Their selling of arms has nothing to do with whether or not they are in NATO or whether or not NATO exists though.
And we are already intimately involved with the UK.
Yet, it's not factual.
Just because you think 2+2=432343 doesn't make it so. You admitted yourself that you have no proof or evidence or any factual basis to make your wild outlandish claim, apart from your 'suspiciosn'.
Therefore you are peddling a conspiracy theory.
Germany seem to have a policy of not supplying arms into conflict zones.
More nonsense.
Your are just confirming yourself to be a low-knowledge poster who doesn't know what they are talking about.
I have grounds to be suspicious. That's all I ever said.
Yes, I know this. But it is counter to German policy up to this point, see link provided earlier.
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So they do send arms to conflict zones? So you are retracting your earlier statement..
Good to know.
Reduced to memes now.
Clear you are tacitly running away now like others. Ah well. 😁
Yes, they have broken their own rules/code under pressure from other NATO countries and NATO itself.
Do I want that for Ireland = No.
You never answered, do you want an alliance with countries that would break their own rules and international ones, to supply arms to conflict zones they explicitly shouldn't be?
Yay or nay?
No, just pointing out that you have been exposed as a low-knowledge, anti-everything, knew-jerk conspiracy crank and Putinversteher. Thats good enough for me.
Ah OK. NATO made them do it. Not that fact that the Russians have invaded a sovereign nation in the east in an attempt to enslave them and rebuild their imperial empire.
Nah, that had NOTHING to do with it at all.
A true Putinversteher you are.
I have backed up the facts my suspicions are based on.
Out comes the invective again. Ah well, as I said.
They were not going to do it and I posted a link to a German minister explaining why.
Yes, they have responded to the pressure brought to bear on them by Ukraine and other countries in NATO.
Western allies and members of Scholz’s governing coalition have become increasingly blunt in publicly criticizing the Social Democratic chancellor and urging him to send tanks, artillery and other matériel to Ukrainian forces.
Pressure grows on Germany’s Scholz to send heavy weapons to Ukraine – POLITICO
I can see the edge of the world when I stand on the Aran Islands, that is a fact that backs up my suspicion that the world is flat.
As @markodaly has said, you have been exposed as a low-knowledge, anti-everything, knee-jerk conspiracy crank and Putinversteher. Nobody really needs to add anything to that but I am sure you will desperately shout anyway.
Coalition partners and Western allies urge chancellor to step up.
Are parties in government also NATO?
What's that saying by Lincoln again?
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt.
I think Francie is more like the Aidan O'Shea of boards. Fancies himself as a big player, has a tendency to be part of many losing causes, fails gloriously, and has never won a medal/argument in his life.
'Western Allies' Mark...Western allies who are members of NATO.
Once again I back up a claim, you greet it with invective and a meme.
Donald Tusk is in NATO? Who knew?
Plenty of others mentioned in that article are not in NATO either blanch.
What does 'western allies' typically mean? Lets have a look elsewhere...no mention of Donald Tusk here:
nor here
No, you back up nothing because you are a conspiracy crank with your 'suspicions'.
The EU is also NATO, as are the coalition partners of the German Government which includes the German Greens!!??
Basically NATO is anything and everything that Francie says they are.
Sigh...Western allies include members of NATO
Western Allies also include Ireland by the way.
But whatever, your tangent is useless at this stage, despite your protestations about your 'facts' and your conspiracy theories about NATO.
Is the UK keeping a conflict going between Saudi Arabia and Yemen in contravention of their own rules and international law...YEP, they are.
Is that because they are one of the major arms manufacturers in the world...I suspect it is.
Is the UK a major and powerful member of NATO = YEP
Yes, of course ;-) Maybe first sort out our culture and heritage first... btw: https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2019/0220/1031818-victor-bayda-irish-language/
The UK is not a party or a belligerent to the war in Yemen. As much as this might surprise you, the UK doesn't get to tell Saudi Arabia what to do. Unless you want the UK to invade the Kingdom. Is that what you're after Francie?
And it's instructive that you find yourself more concerned about arms companies selling to Saudi, than you are about Iran, North Korea et al sponsoring the Shiite Islamists to tear Yemen apart.
Quite apart from giving Putin a backrub, you're now entering a curious space where you're a useful idiot for the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, Hezbollah and the Ayatollah of Iran (throw Kim Jong Un in for good measure). Out of that cast of characters, it's telling you give some of the worst of the worst a free pass, and lose your head about the UK fulfilling arms contracts.
**** no, I'm almost dogmatically apolitical on all fronts but neutrality is the one thing I'm passionate about. I'm not dying for any **** Ukrainians, I wouldn't even die for the Irish. **** off
EVERYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME IS INSANE
