I laughed aloud at the email part.
Were you also assured that you could jump in the sea without getting wet and drink heavily without getting drunk?
Official Ireland protects the plantation at all costs: the cost often includes the truth, common sense and the dignity of its own agents.
Imagine reguritating absurd lies as part of your job? It must be soul crushing.
A relative of mine tried to phone their GP yesterday and answer machine said that the practice had taken it's limits of calls for that day.
The local hospital 50 miles away has stated it is full to capacity with some waiting times in A&E exceeding 12 hours.
Affordable Housing in my area for young local couples is non existent unless you're on benefits and the local hotel is full of refugees, leaving any spare accommodation used for air b&b or holiday homes for most of the year.
Our mains water supply is switched off now at 11pm till 6am to help with the demand on water. We have been told our water supply is very low. This in which is by no means a dry summer.
I could go on but what is the point.
But does anyone think that this sounds like a functional country that should be trying to increase its population drastically.
Am I wrong or does this sound more long term than the Gormanstown camp that seems to be exclusively for Ukranians?
I thought it would of been 100%.
Surely word must be out what a soft touch of a country we are.
Colour me shocked
To be honest, I don’t recall the exact details…
In the first two weeks of June - the freshest figures - 95% of those refused entry to the State subsequently claimed asylum and entered the international protection process.
I'm guessing you made up that number like you made up your others, but maybe you'll prove me wrong and post a legit source
Indeed. Prospective asylum claimants refused entry to the State or “leave to land” are absolutely treated differently from non-asylum claimants. If at any time in the process a person refused entry claims asylum or indicates that they require international protection, they will be admitted to the international protection process - they will be included in relevant refused entry statistics, however they will enter the international protection process. Would you be interested in the percentages of those recently refused entry that have subsequently claimed asylum? Would you venture to guess? In the first two weeks of June - the freshest figures - 95% of those refused entry to the State subsequently claimed asylum and entered the international protection process.
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/question/2022-06-14/1345/?highlight%5B0%5D=leave&highlight%5B1%5D=land&highlight%5B2%5D=leave&highlight%5B3%5D=land&highlight%5B4%5D=leave&highlight%5B5%5D=land&highlight%5B6%5D=leave&highlight%5B7%5D=land&highlight%5B8%5D=asylum
Edit: Apologies, I misremembered this as being for the first two weeks of June, it was from the first week of June only - doubtlessly an anomaly... The percentage remains accurate, it is from Oireachtas records - a question to the Minsiter for Justice, Minister McEntee, from Deputy Catherine Murphy of the Social Democrats.
One of many clowns in a big circus that's destroying my country.
Good old Roderik, tweets in multiple languages asking people to come claim welfare, you'll be grand.
Couldn't be bothered with simple communications regarding early childcare throughout the pandemic.
A clown. Sometimes it's hard to believe that our political class is this short sighted. Thankfully I have an email from our Minister of Housing telling me O Gorman own door accommodation would have no impact on existing housing.....
That's the point I'm trying to make.
Word of mouth has undoubtedly spread that claiming asylum gets you in and if your unlucky with your application you can appeal an appeal again and again until finally you get to stay.
That's what been happening for a long time now. Especially with OGorman promising everyone accommodation.
To be honest I don't recall the exact details from what was posted (there's a LOT posted in this thread) but I would guess asylum applications get treated differently.
So your saying some don't get passed the airport and are deported straight away.
Even the ones who claim asylum.????
Yes, stats have been posted previously in the thread but good luck finding them with the search functionality on the new site.
Border control is where most (by a long way) get turned back
Who is going to enforce All this. Serious question but do we even have something like border control officers or people checking businesses for illegal immigrants.
I am sure it will that is wonderful news .
Sure they can just replace the billions the UK paid in each year with Serbia, Albania and North Macedonia. That'll cover the gap!
The EU has become a cheap labour Ponzi scheme at this point.
It is interesting what is unfolding in Italy. Giorgia Meloni and Mattio Salvini look like they are about to coalesce with Berlusconi, in what looks to be a bit of a dream team government for border control, national sovereignty and Euroscepticism.
This would be a fantastic development for Europe, and a sign that Italy is facing up to reality.
"The Brothers of Italy has long been allied with the centre-right Forza Italia of ex-premier Silvio Berlusconi and the League of Matteo Salvini, suggesting that a centre-right alliance would likely prevail in any election and propel Brothers’ leader Giorgia Meloni to become Italy’s first female premier."
Italy’s Mario Draghi resigns after government implodes - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk
Kind of hope the UK exerts some influence and makes our crowd actually take the border seriously. They always seem to need to have someone else to blame rather than actually being proactive or practical
Travellers boarding without British or Irish passports will be told to apply for an ETA or e-visa from next year, The Times reports.
I don't think hope is good enough at this stage. With the CTA, Ireland will remain the weakest link in the British border, with Ireland throwing its passport around like confetti, Britain's plans are only as strong as the weakest link in the chain.
The Schengen countries announced a few weeks ago that they're bringing in a system similar to the American ESTA https://www.forbes.com/sites/andyjsemotiuk/2022/06/30/a-new-rule-is-coming-for-americans-travelling-to-europe/
And the UK has just announced that they're bringing in one too in a few years https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11033851/Brits-able-breeze-border-controls-contactless-corridor-plans.html
I would hope that Ireland opts in to one of these systems to help stop people just rocking up and tossing their documents
And even if the government were serious about tightening controls I wonder what sector will carry this out.
Sure look at the sh#t show Dublin Airport is at the moment. Not enough trained staff was the excuse.
God only knows what kind of restrictions are in place at the moment.
Good piece from McGuirk:
[quote]One need only look around the country to see this in action: The towns and villages adorned with the flag of Ukraine, the tens of thousands of good faith offers of accommodation for those fleeing war, the efforts to make our Ukrainian guests feel at home. The radical, very online nationalist will decry all these things as evidence of some kind of globally imposed, top-down strategy. The truth is that in almost all cases, this welcome has been a bottom-up one, and that people have been proud to “do their bit”.
This is not a national characteristic that we should decry. On balance it says something good about us as a country that we have never yet had an electorally successful, radically anti-immigration movement. We are a trusting people, and a kind people. What we have, we are willing to share with those less fortunate, and in need.[/quote]
Note he dismisses the conspiracy theory spouted by some on here that mass immigration is all the doing of NGO's.
https://gript.ie/government-hate-speech-migrants/
It's not going to happen. Our amnesty will cover most of those who should be deported.. with very few being affected by deportation orders. Anyway.. considering the way immigration works here, they can easily come back to Ireland after being deported if they wanted.
The manner in which foreign groups live in this country is such a joke. So little effort to track those here and ensure that they're living as they should.
Well, two points, although I suspect you'll ignore them.
First, the fear isn't that White people would be replaced, but rather that immigrants would be brought in, changing the demographics of the nation significantly. [For some nations, the ethnic breakdown of immigrants is predominately white, but for other nations, they experience more immigration from non-whites]. Now, that might seem far fetched to you, but Denmark is a prime case study, if you can be bothered to consider their concerns. Oh, and while you're at it, you might dig a little deeper into Denmark's demographic change, and look at the negatives involved... there are quite a few.
Secondly regarding the concerns about covid and government control... while I didn't share the concerns others had, the government hasn't released all the authority it gained during that period. Organisations have been created, departments within the government have expanded, along with the funding allocated to them, which increase the reach of the government over regulation of the general population. As with most initiatives by governments, once something is brought into being, it's rarely rescinded if it continues to be useful (for whatever reason). And.. those restrictions could easily be returned if the government decides a new variant is a sufficient reason to do so. We're still in the early days of the overall covid experience, considering there is no actual cure or guaranteed protection available.
As usual though, you're assigning viewpoints held by some posters on to the majority as a way of shutting down debate, and discrediting them, as if such concerns are unreasonable. The first point about immigration replacing the native population has some validity considering a variety of national demographic shifts over the last two decades. The covid one, not so much, but any concern about governments increasing their control over a population should be examined fairly.. if we want to continue having a working western democracy, that is.
Lastly, I notice you didn't quote anyone when you shared your "thoughts" with us, so naturally enough, we can assume this is you just projecting viewpoints on to other posters... It's actually quite funny.. you started dismissively talking about conspiracies, but when you assign such views to a vague group of people, that's a conspiracy in itself.
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Yes, we people living in Ireland, is there a problem with that? I'm not going to discuss my personal circumstances so you can let it go.
What are you on about.
Seriously have you any sensible input in what way this country is supposed to provide for more migrants.
I thought there was a worldwide government conspiracy to replace white people? It's odd that the government are taking these steps if that conspiracy is true. Same thing happened with covid when we had the usual nutters talking about how the governments are trying to "control" the public and will "never give up control". Of course all restrictions were lifted. Hmmm, something to think about.
Deport Deport Deport.
5x as many as previous years.
Jesus christ this should have never been let happen.
No wonder we're using tents.
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