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No history.may have barley in the past but not for.20 to 30 years.
Clovermax
Pictures later maybe
There is a grant for sowing the red clover mix for silage. Planning to direct drill it here after barley harvest into the stubble. The plan was to get the grant first for sowing the grain crop, take care of the weeds in that and then to get the grant again for the red clover. Havent grown barley since 2016, It is an awesome crop this year, will harvest @ 30% moisture and crimp and pit mixed with distillers grains, one part barley to two parts distillers. Have 35 acres.
Did you buy the the grassseed before deadline. That s now closed
Wasnt aware that there was a deadline to buy the seed. We only got our approval letter last week.
I must be wrong
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The clover has taken well. You have BYDV in the barley, the yellow leaves.
Was the clover seed " inocculated " ?
( I'm assume that's what dawg was asking ? )
Good stuff.
Ye must more time applying for grants than actual farming…🤣🤣🤣
Did you spray any insecticide for bydv?
Am I right in saying that you’re concerned about the clover? (I would be!).
Could you post a closer pic of the clover please?
Honestly, and not in any way having a go at you, the bollix that recommended that mix should be shot with a ball of his own shyte. The inclusion of the barley is always to bring a bit of starch/energy to the mix to aid in conservation…but you already have grass in the mix so it’s completely void, and now the barley is suffocating the clover?
Nearly a decade ago I offered to Teagasc to send over a youth with shorts, sandals and a notebook…I could hear the guffaws from here! Since then I must have grown the guts of 10k acres of clover. Jesus wept. (Again I’m not in any way having a cut at you KG!)
Yes Mark. Inoculants are imperative if there hasn’t been any legumes in the soil for years. Thing is, they’re cheap!
Have you ever tried or heard of stichting red clover in with a grass harrow , either into stubbles or silage ground ,
If it's viable it'd be a quick , relatively cheap way to swap over to a red clover silage ground, (without the full reseed ) .
With respect Mark, the boss used always say..if something is worth doing, it’s worth doing right..and I agree 100%. He used also say that you can’t have two good crops together, but you certainly can have two good crops one after the other. See Ginger22 post…top class barley crop, followed by red clover.
I take planting of everything very seriously..well sown is half grown! Prepare a proper seedbed..doesn’t have to cost the earth, but do it properly!
We use DD, min till and scratch till, but we always use the best system for that particular parcel at that particular time. There’s no margin for error. Seedbed needs to be an inch deep, fine tilth, seed sown no more than 1cm deep and well rolled. If you can do that with a grass harrow, then away you go.
I'm not doubting that it has to be done right ...😁, Just curious as to if it's done well , and timed right , full ploughing can be avoided .... It's a tiny seed to start with .. and I know stitching in can work brilliantly with white clover ( again if done right 😁) ,
But also red clover isn't very persistent and a full plough and reseed every 3 or 4 years would be a tad expensive ,
I stopped ploughing a decade ago. We still have ploughs though because if a field needs ploughing, then we plough it.
When a seedbed needs to be an inch deep it doesn’t make much sense ploughing to 10”. If your grass harrow can make a fine, level seedbed an inch deep, then why not?
Firming it up afterwards is also very important. It mustn’t be hard, but as the natives here say, ‘you should be able to cycle a bike across it without too much effort’.
Often had alot of clover after undersown barley.just using the schemes to get a bit of reseeding done cheaper
Just checked applications closed in April bit you have until 31 August to buy the seed.in general I prefer may for getting a good take with clover as you go in the year it can be hit and miss
I’ve barley sown with grass seed around the same time as k.g. It got 3 .2 bags of 10.10 20 at sowing and I gave it a bag of can around a forth night ago as it looked as if it had stalled.
the barley has an awful lot of those yellow tips on it, I was told it was probably a lack of n that’s why I gave it the run of can, what is bydv?
any suggestions
Just googled it, am I too late dealing with it or what’s people’s opinion on treatment
Good man.
Barley. Yellow. Dwarf. Virus.
Spread by aphids at two to three leaf stage of the barley.
Spreading a bag is not the solution.
Sorry, but I know less than nothing about tillage, what are my options now?
Unfortunately no solution now.
Treatment should have been at 2-3 leaf stage.
Ignore anyone that tells you to treat it with something from a bag or a can…once the crop is infected, that’s it.
No cure. It is the later sown barley crops that suffered most. Should have sprayed for aphids with the weed spray. But even that might not be sucesfull as some aphids are becoming resistant to the spray.
Any time I sowed red clover with oats it might have got a bag of 10 10 20 or 0 7 30 at sowing and that was it. Never sprayed it or spread fertiliser on it, just cut it.
A wholecrop header might work well if the barley gets almost ripe. If you mow it with a conditioner the heads will fall off. Don’t forget to leave a 4. inch stubble, if. R. C is mowed too tight it can’t produce stolons and will disappear.
Any problem with cutting the clover straight and putting it into the pit with a wholecrop header.phil seemed to say that if it does not get wilt it might be hard to preserve.in 2 minds about how to bring it in.i thought the barley crop was light so i was going to mow and wagon but it has come on alot in last weeks so I'm leaning towards harvester now.
Is the barley starting to turn, ie, getting strawish? If so no bother in using a wholecrop header. In fact it’s better because there’ll less losses. Make sure you cut it as dry as possible. There’ll be plenty starch in the barley to conserve it. In fact the wetter it is the more appetizing it is. Make sure you cut as dry as possible because there’s a lot of juice in clover.
Who’s Phil?
Jeez Dawg have ye any YouTube in France?!!
Yes why?
Farmer Phil on you tube.
Whole crop header works well, but I used it with oats and RC not barley.
