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Not certain ones certainly. 😁
I won’t vote FF FG or greens - FF are a spent force and FG are just spin with no substance. Not sure where we are but at the minute it looks like off the cliff.
What SF supporters are you referring to precisely. Have you missed the fact sentiment against FFFG is not infact just these SF supporters you refer too (those terrible polls)
Perhaps your also forgetting its Leo, MM and apparently ER that are in charge so naturally they'll be the focus of everyone's attention and I might add from within their own ranks also.
I'm fascinated at the peculiar belief, to oppose FFG particularly you must be a SF supporter, I'm certainly not and never was, I've even been accused of being Paul Murphy in cognito on this thread.
The personal animosity between Leo and SF is actually of their own making, both as bad and petulant as each other, MM belatedly got in on the act and the reality of it all, is that it's just deflection tactics by both sides. The opposition have every right to question Government policy and all they and we get is petulance and tiresome deflection tactics from FFG which has been and continues to fail, its embarrassing at this stage when infact they don't even need SF to expose their ineptitude, they do it all on their own and with no shame.
I'm personally disgusted by Leo and MM, Im actually embarrassed fo ER, appalled by various government ministers, but does that mean, I or others are SF supporters, absolutely not, no matter how some might desperately try to suggest it.
Sounds like a "Leave Britney Alone!" speech. :) Political leaders of major parties have always been the focus of such comments. in the recent Irish Times poll, Varadkar's approval rating fell 12% and Martin's also fell. MLMcD's approval rating rose.
Regards...jmcc
(Everyone's a shinner if they speak out about the holy trinity of Eamon, Leo and Michael)
Here's my guess.
2 of the 3 (Michael and Eamon) were ministers of the government when the economy was driven over the cliff. Yes Nigel, FF who you seem to be fairly supportive of, were knee deep in shady deals, corruption and incompetence which over the years resulted in the country losing its sovereignty and the troika having to be called in. Resulting in mass emigration, unemployment and suicide.
Why are people displeased with them once again, less than a decade later getting their grubby little incompetent paws at the levers of power again?
I think I answered it above.
Leo comes across as a highly dislikeable and hypocritical, child like narcissistic individual.
Sooner FG get rid of him the better for them in my mind.
Sorry Nigel, but you did ask.
I too would like these links.
Some people just post awful guff about the government and think they can get away with it.
An overall majority for SF will need them to take in 86-91 seats*. What you are saying therefore if SF fail to win those seats they won't have 'won' the general election. And since we have not had one since 1977, the odds of SF getting one are next to none. So already we can say that SF has lost the GE of 2025. That is your point, isn't it?
*Election commission yet to draw up the new constituencies.
Well, MLMD did say she won that election.
Yet how can a party win an election when they are only approx 40% of the way there to an overall majority?
It seems 'winning' changes depending on the party you are talking about. FG never won an election, even though they got 76 seats in 2011, yet somehow magically SF 'won' the 2020 election with 37 seats.
Highly amusing logic by the usual crew.
With the way both Martin and Varadkar have treated the citizens of this country they deserve all the grief they get.
Its like how the FG/Lab government and its drones tried to claim everyone was a Paul Murphy supporter, which wasn't true of course. Its not clever to go after the general public and more convenient to tie them to a politician or party. That way they can say 'you support PBP' then go after PBP and you by proxy. Its tough for FF/FG to wallow in their crony incompetence and even tougher to be called out on it by the public. Thats why currently everyone's a shinner, (sung to 'everyone's a winner' by Hot Chocolate) and also why they spend an inordinate amount of time whinging about social media.
Its not them and their crises thats wrong, its everybody else, who are shinners, so they are just biased anyway. Its a comfort I suppose.
A that old chestnut "Guff" when it comes to links, Polls, opinions, observations some don't like. Blind delusion I call it.
Just a little titbit from a very interesting new Poll this morning, premium article from the IT, one of three articles on a matter I discussed yesterday that resulted a few misguided Jibes.
The Pie Chart on the Right says it all, the pie chart on the left is all that FFFG will focus on of course, but I'll just say this adhering to international obligations doesn't include or require willful neglect of their responsibilities towards their own citizens.
You show the hypocrisy over these things by refusing to see what is right in front of you in that article. You parse what she actually said to exclude the bit that explains what she meant. Much like the tactic of inventing/misrepresenting things people say here and then ranting about them.
She won the contest for the popular vote, is what she said, it's there in a direct quote attributed to her
Sinn Féin has won the election. We have won the popular vote,
and immediately got cancelled here for saying what was abundantly obvious.
I was going to point this out but couldn't have been bothered, thank you 😉
Yes you are getting it now. No party will win an overall majority for decades, if ever again. FF were the only party to do it and look how corrupt it made them.
The fixation with Leo is particularly interesting. From Leo the Leak to Leo the Loser, the constant vitriol directed towards him is particularly unhealthy for those spouting it. One wonders at the motivation.
It remains amazing to me that some people consider that a party going into opposition and seeing zero of its policies being enacted for five years can be considered to have won an election. Government is for winners, opposition is for losers.
There is a concerted effort to portray 'blocking houses' as something sinister. To my mind it is a tactic designed to allow a return to the circus that was the Celtic Tiger.
This is what it costs if planning and regulation becomes subservient to crony development and bad unregulated building on inappropriate sites.
A housing crisis is not a charter to return to this.
One wonders at the motivation.
He's shite at his job and tells lies. Wonder no more.
Housing again but no concern for those in emergency Accommodation of course, the Indo virtue signalling gain.
I wondered will MM, Helen McEntee and Heather Humphries be in attendance to greet the fortunate refugees on their way to Gormanstoen Camp. Delightful looking place, gosh I hope there's some landscaping done for the Ribbon cutting ceremony and photo ops.
Meanwhile growing tensions, could FFFG just end this misery, do the decent thing a go.
Sorry for the Guff Link, no distress intended.
Has it occurred to you he is singularly bad at his job? I don't like FF or Michael Martin but at least he has shown some competence in leading his troops.
Helen can bring a few boxes of taytos.
She and Humphries in real trouble politically over this, Meath slowly turning into refugee camp. The meath Chronicle reporting on the Tent city, this is going to get ugly and Tayto Park may even be considered next 😉
Don't think that's it.
At this point it is inconceivable how much FFG have completely fcuked the housing (and rental) market over the past 20 years. It's just completely FUBAR now. Every aspect of housing is messed up and it looks like the taxpayer will have to spend 6 billion fixing what we already have (Mica + Unregulated properties).
Michael D was holding back when he called it a disaster.
And their feeble excuses will just sicken an already disgusted electorate.
I want to them to stay in power for as long as possible and face up to their failings on a daily basis.
Go on say it your dying to, they hate him cause hes gay.
They hate Micheal cause hes straight i suppose too?
Ironically incoming Ukrainians looking for housing might benefit the Irish citizens who have been calling for FF/FG to invest in state sponsored housing for years but getting ignored.
I know you will try claim its not because it gives his incompetence and lying a pass, but you should read the comments. Hint* they explain the criticism.
They are just waffling while they drain as much money out of housing as they can. The wheels came off when we start buying houses to use as social and hotels and B&B's became the norm.
A disaster suggests an accident or incompetence. Its a plan and working nicely for them.
And the logic of that is that those who win the election are those who go into government.
The others are losers.
Keep them coming lads whats the problem
Whatever...such babies.
The real winner is Corruption, Cronyism, Waste etc