The only poll that counts is an election
An election that ain’t happening because SF made a mess of the motion 🤣
Yes at record levels in the polls while the 2 main Govt parties are heading to single figures
SF are sick
If you are sitting in Sinn Fein today it must be very depressing. For two years now they have thrown everything at the government.
The the faux outrage act on every subject, trying to keep the online mob busy, trying to keep up with the popular opinion and change their policies to keep up. They must be exhausted
And at the end of it alll what do they have to show for it? Losing the motion of no confidence by significant margin, Leo is rightly found innocent, Pearse has taken a couple of massive losses over the last few weeks and looks a major weak link now
It really couldn’t have gone any worse for them…..
It’s also interesting to see the reaction of the supporters which seem to reflect the party and it’s blind panic.
It’s also like some of teh TD and descended into personal attacks on TDs
Again, that may well be true, but the poster was discussing the poll published today. I guess the polling results showing FF FG being in a tailspin are unsavoury to some. But the hysterics around here are , ummmm well hysterical.
Two weeks away from an election is when most voters engage and a poll at that point will give fairly strong indications of how people may be thinking of voting. This doesn't really show us any of that, just unhappiness with the government at this moment in time.
Indeed, no-one has suggested otherwise, however (the important part) the posters above were referencing the poll published today. That's the poll being discussed in the above exchange.
Comments on a poll two weeks from an election will be comments on that poll.
Not sure I follow your point. Unless of course you're confusing me with the other poster who commented on the details of the poll results? (I didn't)
Yawn. It's a bit Trump like to try crying "lies" about the results of polls you don't like. Here is a different polling company.
Same results I'm afraid.
Stop trying to dance on the head of a pin.
You got rumbled, accept it and move on dude.
Your bhoys took a hell of a beating……suck it up.
It's a snapshot poll, in July 2022, probably at least 2 years from a GE. Now, if an opinion poll like this shows up two weeks before that election then all you say will true.
It was a poll result based on the demographics and how they voted. No lie, and I would ask that you withdraw the accusation.
You should have stopped that post after the first sentence, because it was the only part of it that was true.
You passed an analysis of how 1,000 voted in an opinion poll off as the "the breakdown of the last election". It wasn't.
You passed off the poll as a result of the general election. Will leave you to it
"Attacking"?
I'm not attacking anyone, "bedfellow" is a description of people or a person who shares a belief or some kind of connection with one another (forgive me if you two are at odds with one another, but it its not how it appears to me) so "bedfellows" is in my mind a fair and reasonable description. Do I really need to explain such simple terminology to you?
Honestly, people trying to suggest someone is "lying" about a red c result linked to is really desperate stuff. Kind of feel like I'm being harassed and wrongly accused here, where is my recourse by some independent adjudicator?
When you're ready though, link to an alternative breakdown of how the demographics voted, 2020.
SF have already started to compromise, it's not a secret they are going around telling people not to believe the rubbish they are saying
Even Pearse came out and confirmed they wouldn't go after "big business and investors"
This is while telling the public that is exactly what they plan on doing
"bedfellow"? maybe you can explain what you mean by this?
When did I say the poll was incorrect? you passed the poll off as the election which was a lie. Now instead of admitting it you are attacking other posters. Maybe apologise and move on like normal people would do?
Not much of a leader...
This shows you what they actually think of the Dail
The party said it really was a “bit of a laugh”.
Why don't yourself and your bedfellow post a link to an alternative breakdown of how the demographic voted in the 2020 election?
(If you want to disprove red c)?
You are clearly trying to mislead. Next time why not just post the truth?
Dam it blanch, you rumbled me. Despite the conversation stemming from polling results, and me clearly linking to what I was clearly referring to, and despite there never, ever being official breakdown of how demographics vote (because that information doesn't exist, because it isn't asked) I was clearly trying to mislead the audience.
Maybe one member of the audience needs to give themselves a shake, and waken up a bit.
Pretty quick.
It's a well known fact that new governments start compromising on policy coming out the gates of the Áras.
This is what you said: "the breakdown of the last election showed that Sinn Fein had the largest share of the vote from every age group except the (again this is from memory) 55+ group."
You tried to present the graphs as being from the election, and there was no clarification that it was from an opinion poll. It was a clear attempt to mislead the audience.
It's not "lies" it's a poll based on asking demographics who they voted for.
You were expecting an official breakdown of figures from the actual election? Sorry, I don't think they exist. I never claimed the above was either. I liked to the red c page also, so I repeat no "lies"
All I ever do is number my polling card, not sure where you vote, but my polling station doesn't ask me to fill out my essential details on the card.
You're being bitterly silly now.
Quite literally, given SF’s lack of interest in doing anything to combat climate change
Poor old Mary-Lou, running out the door in shame and embarrassment at losing the vote so heavily.
However, that isn't the most interesting part of that article.
"Sinn Féin has also played down fresh criticism of its decision not to grant Fine Gael TD Bernard Durkan a voting pair even though he was absent due to Covid-19.
Mr Durkan said Sinn Féin have displayed a terrible lack of decency and reached a new low in exploiting his Covid diagnosis for their advantage in the Dáil confidence motion on the Government."
So Sinn Fein expect people to turn up in the workplace when they have Covid. That is the clear implication of them refusing a pair for Durkan. About as low as you can get.
Three weeks would be my guess.
Took 100 years for the electorate to turn on FF/FG, so maybe that's the marker?
More lies. That is not from the general election, it is from an opinion poll.
If Sinn Fein got it how long would it take for the voters to turn on them (not the die hard ones the new ones that want change)?
From memory, the breakdown of the last election showed that Sinn Fein had the largest share of the vote from every age group except the (again this is from memory) 55+ group.
You might as well stand and throw sugar at those poll results Nigel, it's not going to change the way the wind is blowing for FF and FG, both are in terminal decline.
Edit. Here is the published results including the vote share from various age groups and demographics.
All adults.
18-34 year olds.
35-54 year olds.
55 +
There are a lot of 18-20-year-olds in Ireland who to quote Alfred Pennyworth 'whom just want to watch the world burn'
