O Gorman on the six one rambling on and not giving solutions to the problems. It's clear in my mind that the government is not calling the shots in this country. Not one of the idiots will say we have reached full capacity and enough is enough. Quiet ironic that the news item before that is how the Irish citizens can go to Spain for medical procedures.
Something seriously not adding up here.
Just caught the tail end of an interview with one of those chancers from MASI basically pissing and moaning that not enough is being done for the brown and black asylum seekers compared to the Ukrainians. Also our housing minister saying over 3000 more places will be provided for Ukrainian arrivals with more measures to follow.
What the **** is going on? At what fecking point do they turn the taps off and say enough, we're full? This is insanity, we simply can't afford this BS. We can't provide for our own but the gates are open for the rest of the world. Seriously, they're talking about more 'refugees' arriving tonight from Poland and Georgia, how can we still keep accepting people who are safe in other countries?
I saw a Ukrainian woman on that Ukrainians in Ireland facebook page, who is safe in the Czech Republic and who has been given permission to stay, asking if she can cancel that and come to Ireland instead? She was being given advice on how to get around that. Someone else's teenage daughter is currently abroad working with horses and not as a result of the war, the mother is still in Ukraine with the other 2 daughters, but feels that her daughter shouldn't have to do that work and is asking for people to take her daughter in in Ireland. It's fricking madness.
If anyone wants to know how deluded and totally out of touch this government is with the mess migrants coming into the country are listen to Ann Rabbite being interviewed by sarah mcinerney on Rte.
Seriously it beggars belief how these people can be allowed to make decisions for the good of this country. The minister is totally deluded or has lost the plot.
Maybe it's racist, I'm not sure but I am sure some NGO could advise.
Labour party is a lost cause. The social policy academics are running the party. Our political party situation in Ireland is depressing.
That would be to much of a logical task for our government to implement.
Here's my solution to the bogus 'Ukrainians'. Give them a 2 minute Ukrainian language interview where they have to answer the most basic questions - what's your name, where did you live in Ukraine, what did you do for a living?
If they can't answer those questions - in Ukrainian - then they are obviously bogus and should be turfed out of the country in shame for taking up spaces that are set aside for UKRAINIAN refugees.
Problem fixed: hotels are full so they can't even come for the interview. No interview, no offer, no refusal, no problem. Genius.
And it is almost guaranteed one of the questions put out at this Minister's meeting will be "How do we manage this without upsetting the NGOs or bringing allegations against us.
This should absolutely not be the case. Government shout be allowed in a hard nosed fashion to get to the root of the irregularities here and sort it out, without worrying about upsetting someone who is looking to angle an allegation.
What figures they don't have have accurate figures for those actually deported as its self deportation .
The Ukraine refugees are not the problem as can be clearly seen. The numbers that were expected still haven't arrived here. What has happened here is that it has shown up just how many refugees are entering this country and its slot more than we were led to believe.
Citywest which was made ready for the Ukraine refugees is full. But 70% are not from Ukraine but other international refugees. Something far wrong what is happening in this country.
What the hell are you on about Candice Owens for on an Ireland thread?
Oh wait 64 posts backup account by the looks of it
I see the government are blaming the UK for the referee crisis we have here. God, we are not a grown up country at all.
Is this Irelands version of Candace Owens? Is he wearing blue eye contacts? Pretty funny if so. He seems to wear blue eye contacts in videos.
It was a good move for Candace in America. She made money, got white people following and worshipping her instead of being racist to her (look up her early life) and got a white partner out of it also which I'm sure she really wanted. She made racist white people support her race mixing. They campaign against race mixing and being ethno nationalist but at the same time they support her race mixing and make her more famous by sharing her stuff. It's pretty funny.
Have a drive through any town or village and it's the same story.
Even the most rural towns with no services and employment are being influxed by migrants.
God help our children and grandchildren trying to get accommodation for colleges. This government has forgotten about its own.
Have a drive through Saggart village and down to Citywest Shopping Centre this weekend and you will see exactly where we are at now
Pardon my hate speech but this insanity needs to end now.
And it's not just the housing crisis, it's the healthcare crisis and this also will affect the education system. I'm ready to bet that Ireland will drop places in the PISA ratings, where currently it holds a very high position.
I was horrified but not surprised to read that. All anyone needs to do is take a bus from Ennis to Limerick to see the sheer volume of asylum seekers/refugees of every nationality getting on at every single bus stop at every hotel from Ennis to Limerick to see why there's a problem. This is where we are now, the government need not worry about a shortage of hospitality workers because this time next year we probably won't have much of a hospitality industry left.
It's disgraceful that the government is destroying the tourism industry in this country and then there's people claiming that only Ukrainians are being put in hotels and that asylum seekers are being put in DP, what planet are these people on? Our hotels have become the new Direct Provision centres. Why would a tourist come to Clare when there's nowhere to stay? Why would any tourist fly into Shannon airport when there's nowhere to stay in any hotel in the Clare/Limerick region? This has to stop. The insanity of government saying they'll source more accommodation, **** that, it's time to shut the damned door and start deportations of anyone in DP with a failed claim.
AKA the all too usual attempt to lump in and label anything that asks the questions society is not allowed ask as "hate speech". We removed the blasphemy laws because they were silly holdovers from a past that labelled dissent and questions about illogical faiths as wrong and punishable. We're adding this nonsense for pretty much the same reasons. When the religious are in charge, everything they don't agree with is heresy.
Strange past time, anyone who works closely with ngos or asylum seekers able to explain the cultural nuances here?
Oh I know why phones ringing off the hook. People they meet livid. 100s of Emails a day all support has pretty much evaporated now. That's the Govs fault not Irish people, If they had a plan and a cap we would not be here.
Have you read the Jay and Casey reports?
This is a welcome and timely development given the recent toxicity and hatred on display against those less fortunate.
The Bill will strengthen the law around incitement to hatred by proposing clearer and simpler offences of incitement to hatred than those in the existing legislation.
These new offences will cover inciting hatred against a person or persons because they are associated with a protected characteristic, and also disseminating or distributing material inciting hatred.
The new legislation will set the threshold for criminal incitement to hatred as intent or recklessness. This means a person must either have deliberately set out to incite hatred, or at the very least have considered whether what they were doing would incite hatred, concluded that it was significantly likely, and decided to press ahead anyway.
A good change from the use of "motivation test" to "demonstration test". Will ensure its a lot easier to get convictions.
A motivation test for hate crime requires proof of someone’s subjective motivation for committing an offence - what was in their mind at that exact moment. However, the Minister has now concluded that motivation alone in proving hate crime offences can be difficult to establish and therefore might not result in a conviction.
A demonstration test means simply that a perpetrator demonstrates hatred towards a member of a protected group/characteristic at the time of an offence being committed.
This might involve, for example, the use of hostile or prejudiced slurs, gestures, other symbols or graffiti at the time of offending. In practice, it means that by using a demonstration test, the prosecution does not necessarily have to get inside the mind of a perpetrator to prove the crime but can use a demonstration test as an alternative method of proving a crime committed is a hate crime within the provisions of the legislation.
Maybe his party is starting to feel the backlash of these moves. I doubt anything solid will come out of this except false promises
Sounds like moved on somewhere else the guy in the window said he had been in Citywest the red cow Cork back to the Red Cow and now Kinnegad. Also he said he got the bus over from the UK.
Looks like local councils are being bypassed in the decision making processs
People have been dealt with but there was nothing to deal with some told us. Dealt with in what way and for what.
True unfortunately…. They just don’t have good leadership.
Between the above and the listing's on daft the "far right" hashtag of Ireland is full is correct.
#irelandisfull
Interesting report of the public meeting and some of the refugees in the hotel.
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