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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,235 ✭✭✭Pussyhands




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭KildareP


    If the fault wasn't of significant impact then it may not have shown on powercheck - have found that out myself even though you can see ESB crew working!

    However, it seems they are (thankfully) prepping for a difficulty winter.

    Moneypoint is being gradually ramped up again using coal and is now providing for 10% of the current grid load today which has been slowly but steadily rising over the last two weeks. It and Tarbert (oil) can both store enough fuel onsite to run at full tilt for about 3 months, although who knows how efficient they are today given their age and that they were both effectively mothballed up until last year.

    Some of the existing gas turbine plants can be run on oil as well as gas if needed but with the drawback of reduced output compared to gas as well as requiring more running maintenance (downtime).

    Beyond that, though, let's hope it's a mild and consistently windy winter?

    We're fecked if it's calm and cold and gas is heavily restricted as there's very little leeway on the electrical grid as it is before we even consider everyone reliant on gas heating plugging in electric radiators instead... I'd suspect already retired thermal plants like Poolbeg (the two chimneys), Shannonbridge or Lanesboro have long since been stripped of being serviceable again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    The optimal word being alternative.

    You crow about the West, yet ignore (or more likely ignorant to) Chinese state firms seizing a Sri Lankan port in Hambantota in 2017 after the SL government couldn't service the onerous debt terms set down by the Chinese government.

    Open your eyes Putin flunkie.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 644 ✭✭✭Darth Putin


    Yes we are fecked if get calm week or two that’s overcast as happened this winter already

    Your post made me look at Eirgrid dashboard and our 6000mw of installed wind is generating…. 350mw right now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,225 ✭✭✭✭TheDriver


    I assume it's like Irish college etc whereby you'd pack 4-6 into a bedroom with bunk beds etc.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    The point that you obviously missed is that there is a big supply side issue with gas, trying to subsidise it will only cause gas consumption to go up and then prices to match. Soon the impact of the subsidy is totally lost.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,235 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    Dude, Putin is living rent free in your head.

    Seek help.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,235 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    Weird. I didn't mention anything about China or Russia at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Yeah you directly referencing Belt and Road uncritically in the first instance had nothing to do with China.

    Your real problem PH is that you operate on the basis that you think everyone is as credulous towards propaganda, under-read, and as naiive as you. They're not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,235 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    Sorry, I should have said I never said anything about China being good.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    The EU literally called their proposal "an alternative to belt & road".

    It seems to be some kind of trigger word for you, anytime China or Russia or Iran or anything that even remotely alludes to same is mentioned, you hop on thread posting personal attacks and accusing people of being agents of the East. Literally, what is your problem?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    You're merely completely uncritical towards Chinese Belt and Road predatory lending, the measurable and documented depredation that results from it, and simultaneously in the same post conspiracy theorizing that "Western" countries are out for resources in their structural lending.

    When pointed out that Chinese Belt and Road lending has resulted in the exact resource expropriation that you accuse "the West" of, you fall silent.

    We see you Pussyhands.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Problem? Our resident Kremlinite being uncritical of Chinese predatory lending, while accusing the EU without basis or evidence of doing the precise thing the Chinese government are up to.

    You may be satisfied with conspiracy theorizing in the thread. I am not.

    Report it if you wish. I'm on topic and calling out a poster peddling lies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    Poster literally made no mention of China, just the EU's own belt & road and that it would be used in the same way, resource expropriation.

    You are the one engaging in whataboutery and bringing up the Chinese. Resource extortion is bad when China do it, its also bad when the EU do it. The only person who seems to have a problem reconciling these 2 positions is you.

    Jesus I've heard it all now. I didnt realise that any time you criticise the west you also need to give equal criticism to the east too.

    Can you point out the conspiracy theorizing for all in thread to see? You continually make these accusations of "Putinites", "kremlinites", "conspiracy theorists" but can you back any of that up? All we have is your own accusations backed up by nothing but your own paranoia.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    You must've come down in the last shower to think a reference to Belt and Road isn't a reference to China. Good luck to ya. And that EU structural lending is intended for resource extraction is pure conspiracy theorizing and utter nonsense of the highest order.

    And FYI, I never called PH an "agent" of anywhere. Nobody would pay money for such low-quality crap. He's merely a naiive vessel and useful idiot for Pizzagate and 4Chan edgelord pushed nonsense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    Lo behold! The goalpost shifting commences!

    And FYI, I never called PH an "agent" of anywhere.

    I said you were calling people "Putinites", "kremlinites", "conspiracy theorists", I can even quote these words out of your posts for you if you like.

    Problem? Our resident Kremlinite being uncritical of Chinese predatory lending

    ...

    You are deeply infected by bullsh*t champ. You've been pushing any congealed sh*te you can get your hands on for months now. And yes, you're a Putinist flunkie.

    ...

    Open your eyes Putin flunkie.

    So now, what, you didnt say any of this? Or youre shifting the goalposts to say that you didnt use the word "agent" (which you brought up btw, I never mentioned it).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    I called him all of those things. You're defending a fool and I'm not sure why you're bothered. Like I said, no-one is paying him which is what the word "agent" implies (your words not mine).

    Back on topic, His assertion that EU structural lending is intented as predatory and seeks resource extraction is completely without basis and goes completely against the evidence, and conveniently ignoring the Chinese predatory debt that he referenced.

    It's class-A conspiracy theorizing and you're burning calories defending it. Go right ahead if you want.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    So is this EU lending intended not to be paid back? No? I didnt think so.

    So its loans, with collateral, being graciously offered to struggling countries. Totally different from the Chinese loans, with collateral, being offered to struggling countries. I guess its because its white people doing the lending this time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Take a look at the lending terms from Asian Development Bank (An American- Japanese founded infrastructure bank of which Ireland is a member), IMF or EU structural loans, the interest rates and the schedule of repayments.

    Then set them beside Chinese lending terms. Do a bit of thinking about them, do a bit of thinking Chinese government behaviour when developing countries fall behind on payments and get back to me with what's predatory.

    PH is conspiracy theorizing and you're giving him a back rub.

    Really odd reference there to skin colour in your post. Talk to your parish priest about that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    Yes, everything you dont like is a conspiracy theory. And the Chinese are evil dirty untrustworthy predators. Sounds a bit racist if you ask me. The EU can do as they please but China are a supreme evil. You sound like Donald Trump with this infatuation with the evil Chinese.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    I've broken bread with more Chinese people than you've had Spice bags, which is to say is a lot.

    If your brain can't sift through what's predatory lending and what's not based on the objective observable facts I can't help you.

    Your accusations of racism are laughable.

    Your call going to bat for a Kremlinite troll. Not sure why you're bothered.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,146 ✭✭✭Jonnyc135


    Much like the brady bonds of the 80s, when America stepped in to save half of South America because if they didn't Russia and the communists would have pushed their agenda there ie. Nicaragua



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,146 ✭✭✭Jonnyc135


    Kenya too, wasn't there talk of China taking over the port in Mombassa. The Chinese debt trap is real alright, just hope them and Russia don't start growing their influence. Putin during interviews constantly praising Africa and how it will become a great nation soon, would make you wonder alright.



  • Posts: 617 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    On foot of what you wrote I just ordered a gas stove top and two led lanterns. 😊I'm all electric too in the house.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭greenfield21


    You don't get a recession with 3% unemployment and wages increasing. Also see increasing employment in US. Recession will come but need to see drop in wages so more rate hikes needed. The fed has already asked for this. They need labour market to ease. CPI will lead them.

    Will post below before some doomonger does...




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,235 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    First it was slowing hiring, then hiring freezes, then cutting small percentage.....will that be it?

    Microsoft cutting 1% of employees. It amounts to around 1800 employees so not major, globally.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    You absolutely can - everything is great in the economy until it isnt. Rising wage inflation will make the price of just about everything increase (on top of energy induced inflation), eventually some businesses will find it not profitable to trade - we are already seeing slowdowns in construction due to material price increases. A construction slowdown is very likely now, which will see unemployment start to rise. Similar things can happen in any sector if wages go up.

    That the economy/unemployment is good now, does not prove anything about how it will be in future. If past trends have taught us anything its that things can go from good to bad in a relatively short space of time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,229 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    From family in the building sector things are really slowing down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 644 ✭✭✭Darth Putin


    https://m.investing.com/commodities/crude-oil-urals-spot-futures-streaming-chart

    price of Russian oil is below pre invasion point now

    I remain a master strategist



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,669 ✭✭✭brickster69


    USA inflation for June: 8.8% was expected, in fact it was 9.1%. 75 BPS rise in interest rates looks a certainty


    Niccolò Machiavelli :

    "To ally with great powers to defeat your neighbour is a strategic trap; if you win, you become the slave of the greater power; if the allied power is defeated, you remain alone and defenceless against the angry neighbour, and you are destroyed." - Niccolò Machiavelli



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