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Councils fail to do their job and Cluedo blames everyone except the councils.
I have said on here for years now that the councils are the biggest obstacle to solving the housing problem.
Haven't seen a single sensible suggestion from anywhere. Maybe you could point to some of these "many" suggestions that you think might work.
No one said it has to be NATO level, whatever that means but you just proved my point for me.
So, on one hand, you cry crocodile tears about the state of our defences forces and yet on the other hand you dismiss outright any new investments....
Cant make this up tbh.
So your argument is that the government have zero control over the councils. Is that it? A law unto themselves? Sure why even pass any future legislation so.
Pathetic excuses time and time again.
no theyre not, but can be a part of the problem, we have got to curtail the power of the fire sectors involvement in our property markets, as their primary goals are to maximize returns, at all costs, and we are the cost!
I wasn't offering solutions mark,
I know you weren't but I am asking YOU what YOUR solutions are?
Since you cannot answer a very simple question, it says to me and everyone else you are prepared to give out about the government and the inflation issue, yet unwilling to offer any ideas on how to get to grips with it.
Of course government don't control the councils, that is what we elect councillors for.
Councils and councillors are failing to do their job, that is the biggest problem.
again, no its not!
Again I said: The government parties decimated the defence forces and deserve to be criticised for that.
You made the faux pas of agreeing that had and then tried to shut down criticism of them for doing that . ROFL
I'm really confused, maybe someone else can point me in the right direction. Was looking to see if they had published anything about how they were making platforms like airbnb liable from Sept 1st.
Went on the Dept of Housing website and they have a press release about it, in it they say "The new controls are provided for in the Planning and Development (Amendment) (No. 2) Bill which is currently progressing through the Oireachtas and is expected to be enacted before the summer recess." https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/39e5b-cabinet-agrees-to-stronger-controls-on-short-term-lets/
Went on the Oireachtas website, found the Bill https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/bills/bill/2022/39/?tab=bill-text and I can't see anything about short term lettings or advertiser liability, theres nothing about new fines or enforcement. There don't seem to be any ammendments that would provide for it and theres nothing in the explanatory note that says anything about short term lets. Am I blind, have I missed a relevant provision that will provide for them to enforce this come sept 1st. In the latest debate on it they talk about Government amendments relating to short term lets in the legislation that were introduced at the committee stage but nothing that I can see to be relevant is listed in the amendments section.
Feel like its probably staring me in the face but I just amn't looking in the right place, can anyone find the proposed amendment?
Oh so what parties do the vast majority of councillors belong to?
So let's say Galway county council decided to stop collecting motor tax...would that he your excuse too? National government have no control over councils or councillors?
When RTE Investigates found widespread fraud, corruption and waste the FFG promised to root it out and did absolutely nothing.
Give it up, its coming across as very sad at this stage.
Its posturing for a pat on the head from the EU. Looking to pad the CV before the government falls.
The great thing about the MONC is the electorate get to see which indies support the government.
I wonder what goodies they are using to keep the likes of Lowry on side?
There are people in this world whose whole approach to life is to complaining and moaning and whinging while criticising those who get on with doing things, while lamenting what "others" might do without ever making a concrete suggestion, or fleshing it out. These boards won't escape that phenonemon.
Again (and this is getting tiresome) the point wasn't about MY solutions Mark. Pippa Hackett was reaching for some Putin shite in order to deflect away from criticism which is more than a bit like you are doing now in trying to deflect.
It's a trite juvenile way to debate issues.
The area with the biggest housing problem - Dublin City - has a majority of opposition politicians on it.
Unlike yourself BA, I still haven't gone to the mods about anything. I didn't call anyone 'plebs' I referred to the plebs from a perspective, but not sure what that has to do with anything.
Didn't you recently show that you didn't understand what the word 'precedent' meant?
Well, I'm back using it again. The government (particularly FG) have set a precedent with the public by often claiming that they want to fix the housing crisis, and saying lots of things, but then doing effectively nothing. Under FG in their entire initial 9 year government, the housing crisis got progressively worse, despite all of their talk. Now they expect us to believe that they will be able to fix it in 2½ years. Nonsense. Stop complaining about everything, and get on with the job in hand, and if obstacles present themselves, deal with them or work around them.
The people, and more specifically and importantly, the homeless want a government that can do what they say. I think it is safe to say at this stage everybody is sick of the excuses, the finger pointing, lies and the nonsense carry on by this government.
If capable, do it. If not, get off the stage.
They are the options. No point in complaining about the tools they are left with after they caused the issue to begin with . Will they complain about the weather too?
Out of curiosity, if FG had pulled their fingers out of their backside 11 years ago, how much would 10,000 houses have cost then? Before Covid, Ukraine, inflation etc,? If they had done it over the course of those 11 years? If they had started 7 years ago? 5?
How much would they cost now, after NAMA have sold all the pockets of land back to developers for pennys?
Will you go away saying that blocking the odd housing estate or whatever is causing all of the problems. The developers are sitting on land all over the place that they were given planning permission for early on and have decided to hoard it.
As mentioned, they know what to do if they are not up to the job. Complaining and moaning that they can't build in that field over there is nonsense.
Touché X 100 😏
The people making decisions in this country for the last decade have been catastrophic.
The housing crisis, the soon to be recognised migration crisis, almost exclusively for the benefit of corporations, and corporations alone.
Zero accountability. Zero choice. Zero pushback.
There is, very practically speaking, only one government and they do as they please. They represent nobody but themselves.
The impact of such disastrous non-democratic leadership has only begun to raise it's head, it will be felt for decades and in increasingly worse ways.
Sinn gael fein fianna, interchangeable jobs for the boys.
Lowry is an exiled FGer. Has he ever voted against an FG government?
Regards...jmcc
Soon to be released figures on Homelessness are said to be Grim and record breaking, Darragh no doubt won't let that disturb his vacation.
They 'deserve' criticism for that even though you agree with the initial policy.
Desperately confused with no credibility.
Next up you will be spouting about your invasion plans for NI again...
OK, so you want to give out about the government, because in your opinion they are not doing enough to tackle inflation, yet flat out refuse to state what exactly they should be doing instead...
"Do something I agree with, even though I don't know what this is yet...."
I guess you need to be told what to agree with once the opposition formulates their own plans ;)
I did NOT agree with the defence forces being decimated to their current level mark. STOP lying and stop trying the snide deflection.
So what? FF and FG are the top two parties on council, are in government, have the planning stitched up and the housing minister. If your suggestion is, with all that in place, they are powerless or incapable then we need rid of them. If you are claiming housing would be improved by allowing the parties who created and made worse the crisis, have free reign, statistics aren't your friend.
Its getting so abysmal their cheerleaders are just blatantly dodging criticism to go after commentators. "Cool kids don't criticise government" seems to be the latest.
Lying for effect is a trait well used.
'How dare you want to discuss how poor the government are in a government thread! Let's attack you......'
Reading the last few pages, I cant believe SF and the opposition caused the housing crisis.
Can we have a MONC vote on them?
Leo getting told some home truths again by the public.
I'm assuming the so-called public here went ballistic. Whatever about his view of the Budget thing this is a description of what could follow a successful MONC but it would be insulting to share such simple insights with the learned posters on here. Personally reckon Michel D would nix it anyway and send them back to sort themselves out.
I'd say it is the public voicing their rejection of it being a 'show motion' when the government had to scurry to independents to ensure they survived.
It's officially dead in the water. Common sense to make sure that there is no risk of an election that only SF imagine they want. It's really not the time for one at all.
Won't be just SF voting no confidence and it ain't SF taking the party whip away as the government loses support.
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