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FF/FG/Green Government - Part 3

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    Another

    private photos of TD is about the best you lot can come up with….or of course a post from a fake news website that a lot of you didn’t even realise it describes itself as a fake news website. Embarrassing then you have people saying they are “interested in politics”

    Article above, clearly explains that DCC are running the negotiations as they should yet somehow we have a few posters without the ability to read having a laugh at the housing crisis.

    Be critical of the government all you want but as we see, private photos/fake news/comprehension problems is all I can see on this thread

    If all else fails mention the RIC event 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

    Will leave you to it….I suggest you check out Waterford whispers, it’s about the level of discussion we see on here



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    A lot of people still don't actually use it and even where they do, not for any of this. There is a pretty specific demographic profile to SM users and the vast majority of those users are in the under 40s. My impression is that they are nearly all either Instagram or TikTok users these days!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,199 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    All very curious on the day the media rehabilitation of Maitiú Ó Tuathail commenced. All very odd, the good doctor seems to be suggesting a colourful character and former best friend asked him to get the infamous documents and yet he was happy to oblige. You'd think Maitiú Ó Tuathail advisors would be recommending the less said, the better 🤔

    I think there's a word to describe what he's suggesting in this whinge piece but of course I dare not mention the word.


    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,321 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    SM is having an affect on politics therefore it affects everyone. I would imagine the vast majority now get their news and political comment from one form of SM or another.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,321 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,199 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    If you're a political anorak you're convinced it is, but all anoraks think that everyone else thinks like them! Most people would use news apps. The days of Facebook feeding people news are numbered. SM is just one method of communication used, there are many other ways. I'm not sure how long that might last for the big ones, in their present form, as I regularly meet people happily ditching it. Bear in mind too that an active user on SM is really just someone who is logged in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,321 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    ffs, if you aren't interested in politics them SM political content won't matter to you.

    Fact is, it is a part of the political scene now and is here to stay so best just accept that and learn to use it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    I have a passing interest in it , as I do for other things, but not the general handbagging nonsense that passes for commentary. SM tends to melt down very easily, often without much provocation and most people really have little to say but can do a pile on very well. One can appreciate a reflective thought out post/thread even if you don't agree with it at all. Trying to trend for a few hours is juvenile numpty stuff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,321 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Not hard to recognise it and avoid. I have an unbiased cross section of politicians and pundits on my feed and it is an adequate replacement for the selection of newsprint I used to buy.

    If you take the time you'll see most good users/contributors have the same attitude, follow as wide a cross section as you can.



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  • Posts: 253 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Even RTE are talking about this FF private back benchers meeting

    https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2022/0710/1309405-ff-meeting-analysis/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,963 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Things are not calm in FF. Analysis of that meeting has even appeared on RTE's website ( https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2022/0710/1309405-ff-meeting-analysis/ ) and it is not exactly favourable to Martin.

    Regards...jmcc

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,321 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Those who think that the MONC is a gimmie for the government must not be reading/hearing reports of Martin engaging in transactional politics with Independents.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,199 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    I reckon MM has long since made his mind up, just seeing out his term as Taoiseach, probably had foolishly thought it would be a quite few remaining months, he's either blinded by his own virtue signalling or just oblivious as to whats going on in the country, maybe a combination of both. He's been shamelessly working the international room in advance of his next career steps.

    This is more than about him, FF Bank bencher can see prolonging this farcical coalition, the problem is, Damned if they do nothing, Damned if they move against MM, they are banjacked either way.

    I'd have thought they'd wait until after budget but even that's in doubt at this stage, A Cluster***K of a situation and they along with FG are entirely to blame, the greens just sleepwalking as per usual.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,189 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    I've been saying for a while if his intention is to step down before the next election, he needs to come clean about that round the time of the handover, ideally a bit before. Because if he is still insisting he carries on after the transition to tanaiste, his enemies in the party will conclude that he means what he says and will likely move against him sooner rather than later.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,963 ✭✭✭jmcc


    The FFers seem to want him gone. The FF Ard Fheis is in September as well as the budget. Not voting for the budget is some serious leverage for these FFers but with their snouts deep in the trough, they wouldn't risk a GE, would they? No wonder the Independent TDs are being lobbied. Even Labour said it would vote against the government in the MNOC.

    Regards...jmcc

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,199 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    FFG Hiding from the week in politics, Pippa Hackett (G) sent out to bat 🙄

    Seemingly the 2 suspended Green TD'S yet to be contacted about how they intend to vote in the MONC 🙄

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 648 ✭✭✭Irelandsnumberone




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    They don't really know they want and haven't since they became public enemy number 1 after 2008 and they've drifted quite badly. Martin was about the only one who would go forward and the options otherwise for leader aren't great. Common sense clearly shows that an election now would work out worse for them. As others have said, seeing out the full term to 2025 if they can is the best option to possibly claim credit for an improvement in housing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Isn't getting property built what we want to see? The rental is a messed up sector with supply issues as well. Those companies will have to be compliant here regardless of the suspicions about them. Their setup says a lot more about the governing authorities in those other jurisdictions. What does the article say apart from this? Are they operating illegally?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 648 ✭✭✭Irelandsnumberone


    What good are properties at rent levels far too expensive for the people who need them, and as a result sit empty just so they can keep the prices up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Eventually, the theory goes, we'll have enough and the market will settle down at a lower level. I'm not sure where that level is but hopefully it should be below where we are now. If companies are strategically leaving them vacant one would like to see a vacant tax applied to it!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 648 ✭✭✭Irelandsnumberone




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,986 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Imagine that ex-FG sheister Lowry will probably get a favour for his vote on Tuesday. New Politics is alive and well.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,963 ✭✭✭jmcc



    They were on track to be the largest party in the last GE until Martin made a complete balls of things by wanting to be the best little FGer ever with his siding with Charlie Flanagan over the Black and Tans/RIC commemoration. You can see FG's support from December 2019 to January 2020 almost dropping off a cliff and it was also doing quite well in the polls in December 2019. The Housing and Health issues also damaged FF and FG but FF suffered most because of Martin and his supporters identification with FG rather than with FF core values. What's after happening now is that FF is fracturing into a pro-FG clique (the FFers with ministerial positions) and the FF backbenchers. The C&S agreement in 2016 basically sold FF's soul to FG for no ministerial positions or perks.

    Regards...jmcc

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,986 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Well done Greens. Postpone the tough decisions until after the holidays...

    FFG are great for green headlines but fail utterly when the details are requested.

    Plan on reduction of greenhouse gas emissions delayed (rte.ie)

    A plan to apply stringent greenhouse gas emission reduction targets on different parts of the economy will not go to Cabinet next week, as had been planned.

    Instead, Environment Minister Eamon Ryan will continue to engage with his Cabinet colleagues on how that burden should be shared - with agricultural emissions the most controversial issue.

    Under the Government's Climate Action Plan. which was published last year, the agriculture sector was told it would be obliged to reduce its emissions by between 22 and 30%.

    Another nonsense plan.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 648 ✭✭✭Irelandsnumberone


    Louth GAA need more funding to raise funds for their new GAA stadium they are building so Peter Fitzpatrick Louth Chairmans vote will be easily got



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,088 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    And as has proven over and over the theory is bullplop.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,986 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Agreed but we dont have a good track record here and minister only recently brought forward the vacant property tax (next budget)

    Councils not collecting vacant site levies due - Independent.ie

    More than half of the country’s local authorities have not collected a single euro of the vacant site levy from landowners since its introduction in 2018, according to new figures obtained from the Department of Housing.

    They also reveal only 8pc of money due for payment under the levy last year was collected by various city and county councils.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    If all else fails mention the RIC event 🤦‍♂️



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