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SM is having an affect on politics therefore it affects everyone. I would imagine the vast majority now get their news and political comment from one form of SM or another.
All very curious on the day the media rehabilitation of Maitiú Ó Tuathail commenced. All very odd, the good doctor seems to be suggesting a colourful character and former best friend asked him to get the infamous documents and yet he was happy to oblige. You'd think Maitiú Ó Tuathail advisors would be recommending the less said, the better 🤔
I think there's a word to describe what he's suggesting in this whinge piece but of course I dare not mention the word.
A lot of people still don't actually use it and even where they do, not for any of this. There is a pretty specific demographic profile to SM users and the vast majority of those users are in the under 40s. My impression is that they are nearly all either Instagram or TikTok users these days!
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private photos of TD is about the best you lot can come up with….or of course a post from a fake news website that a lot of you didn’t even realise it describes itself as a fake news website. Embarrassing then you have people saying they are “interested in politics”
Article above, clearly explains that DCC are running the negotiations as they should yet somehow we have a few posters without the ability to read having a laugh at the housing crisis.
Be critical of the government all you want but as we see, private photos/fake news/comprehension problems is all I can see on this thread
If all else fails mention the RIC event 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Will leave you to it….I suggest you check out Waterford whispers, it’s about the level of discussion we see on here
I see on Twitter that the former CEO of NAGP has been arrested for fraud.
How do you mean 'has no improtance in the lives of most people'?
It's as equally important now, if not moreso, than newsprint. Newsprint is actually going out of fashion due to the SM revolution.
IT IS INFUENCING politics so it has an effect on everyone whether they use it or not.
Echo chambers are to be avoided and it isn't hard to do if you use it properly.
Who says that it isn't? Yet, what you refer to as SM, has no importance in the lives of most of the population. Its benefit is to itself but that still makes it a very useful channel to engage people.
SM now stretches way beyond the snarling and ranting of the old guard and the newer stuff tends to be more niche in what it does. That's actually a good thing and a more interesting and useful future for it than the rabid incoherent echo chambers of the more traditional exponents.
I got very emotional on hearing of Jennifer Carroll Mc Neills constituents rising heating bills.
Life is a sewer if you only look at it in a certain way. SM is here to stay, and the more astute have found a beneficial way to use it while others get left behind to whinge about it.
I've been following this highly respected Architect (Real , Verified Expert)
SM nay be Toxic, perhaps a sewer and immensely amusing at times , but why I often ask myself do politician's especially, use it , with many obsessing about it , especially FG public representatives , most notably Leo, Simon Harris (rather embarrassingly) .
I'm not on any other SM platforms apart from Twitter and even at that , not a big user. What has intrigued me of late is the absymal "Likes" posts by FFG politician's get to their posts and the extraordinary levels of negative responses they get in response and I might add from verified users.
My favourite Tweet opening line...
"I'm pleased" is used almost universally by FFG politician's only to receive a barrage of "Displeasure " in response. Why they even bother posting on Twiiter , amazes me, they actually drive alot of the Toxicity.
There was backlash against Thomas Byrne FF , Meath East yesterday who posted some nonsense about MM support and commitment re health services in his constituency, the Questions rolled in about his absence at the Navan Hospital protests yesterday, Helen Mc Entee also absent. Questions about new found concerns for example.
Whilst I have no opinion on the Navan Hospital situation, Local government politician's seem oblivious to how ridiculous they look when conveniently weighing in on a local Topic that may impact on their vote locally at the very last minute all the while ignoring what they must have been hearing on the ground. They make it even worse going on SM by making fools of themselves. It's simply beggar's belief, Government TD'S, ministers in the constituencies affected by the Navan Hospital issue , weren't aware of what was planned. I'm just using this as an example.
But often forgotten, it's actually Politician's of all persuasion or their supporter's that are infact the most Toxic people on SM, especially Twitter and dare I say , elsewhere 🤔
The fact remains, like or Loath SM , it's here to stay and many breaking News items actually appear on it before actual News organisations start reporting. Actually, I'd wager, SM actually embarrasses certain Biased News organisation to report on Topics they'd rather, not cover .
Party members whingeing is as old as politics itself and it's good for them to let off steam. PPM discussions are regularly leaked in the media. It doesn't mean that it is anything more than that and it is good to talk. There's no circumstance in which this government falls in the next 12-18 months. They are hooked to each other because of what they need to do.
As for the SF side of the equation well they are now on their own to try to gather partners. The arrangements for the last two governments show that there are probably still solutions that do not involve SF as a government partner. This current one, however much backbenchers mutter about it, has the potential to be returned and offer up ministerial possibilities. The FF conundrum is what they stand for and that has nothing to do with any other party.
I'd also be wary of calling SF different to Labour. They do drift in the very same populist waters. Labour's problem and very probably SF's is that the electorate will really punish people for not delivering, especially those who set themselves up as the great hope. SF dropped 50% in the last locals and 80 seats after the high of 2014.
It's an infant media source, with all that attendant carry-on and yes it is pretty useful as a channel and source of information but I don't share the glee that some indulge in about its content. It's still a sewer and should be treated as such.
This fetching picture doing the rounds on Twitter .
Hazard a guess, who's to the right of Simon 🤔 (Hint, recent resignation)
I can't "Verify" if it's been photo shopped , so to speak , so caution and bemusement required 😏
Front Page headline in the Irish Mail on Sunday
Rebels to tell Martin: 'Go or be pushed"
They want him gone in the Autumn
https://twitter.com/leeofthemail/status/1545909119676186624?t=H8GOFtnxYgM80J3QZYA6Fg&s=19
The housing crisis has gone up. It has got worse since FG got into government.
If anyone was laughing at the homeless, it is FG.
Meanwhile... This is how Leo is concentrating on the housing crisis..
The more you post on it the more it seems you don't find many like minded people on there so you dismiss the whole thing. If elliot page wants to be called such why would anyone be a dick and use Ellen? It must be like the N word or some other pointless need certain elements have to do and say what they like regardless of the insults.
What has Ellen Page got to do with FFG?
See how far you get referring to Ellen Page (who does not and has never existed, nor certainly played a pregnant woman) before you call it a place of legitimate debate.
Certain elements don't like being challenged and they certainly don't like alternative narratives coming out. Narratives they can't control.
I was commenting on your comparison which came across as the condecending waffle one might hear from a second year uni student from a well to do background. Pretty much comparing the Frankfurt school with a social media free for all. Pretentious imo. Twitter and Facebook are merely online platforms. The quality of discussion depends on who you are talking to. You can choose to dismiss the whole platform but it won't make you right. People put too much weight in it and get disappointed. Its just a virtual barstool discussion half the time. Literally anyone with an internet connection can join in. I think that's what certain elements don't like the most.
Nonsense. Scroll past the bots all the time. And there is comment from all walks of life on there.
'Bots' is just a handy dimissive term because you can't stand the idea that everyone gets a say.
I would like to see the investigation report published. Guaranteed there is planning corruption involved with local authorities and councillors. RTE Investigates showed that it was rampant and FFG ignored it. When will we learn? Corruption is never far below the surface of this banana republic.
The fatal flaw in your argument is that 'Twitter is the people's forum', I put it to you that it is not, it's the forum of bots and idiots that very rarely is 'of the people', in fact it spends much of it's time as a forum ensuring 'people' are never heard as it favors corporate interests, where's your blue check mark buddy? To suggest that it's a valuable place of debate is just laughable.
Even boards, as borked and all as it is, is ten times the forum that Twitter is for 'the great unwashed'.
So if we have the temerity to criticise what the government are doing we are laughing at the problem they allegedly are trying to fix? Thats the biggest load of horse shiit I have read in a long time. Your defence of the government sounds exactly like the ministers who were on TV and radio over the past 2 weeks defending Boris.
I read very informed debate on twitter actually.
I can spot the abusive trite debates a mile off and avoid.
I think the coffee house idea is great and was never a thing here but the essential point is SM is here to stay as a part of the political debate and he/she who knows how to use it will benefit from it. Time to stop whinging about it's mere existence.
BA , you appear to think people are laughing at the Housing crisis, seriously, that's an extraordinary assertion,
I'm particularly in disbelief at the incompetence of the Minister and yes he has being quite a bewildering figure.
Whilst I do try and see the satirical side to his buffoonary, I do so because I'd cry in despair otherwise.
So confusing folks opinions on his and governments farcical handling of the housing crisis with folks laughing at the housing crisis, may be a deflection tatic but it won't wash, I'm afraid .
I again remind you of the Ministers refusal to discuss costs to buyers , which you appear to be ignoring.
Another old phrase. If you have to ask the "Price" You can't afford it. 😅
Yes you are laughing at them. As I said you would be more than happy if the number of people homeless and stuck in housing crisis went up.
The faux outrage about the Syrian men quickly disappeared didn't it once it was fired up here for a dig? move onto the next topic.
Anyway as I said, leave you to it
We are not laughing at the housing crisis, we are just wondering why you announce a housing scheme without having all the details to hand. Saying prices will be available as soon as possible means fuuck all to people who are looking to buy a house now and not next year.
