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It is politics and it will dominate the last week of the Dail's session. It also has the added entertainment value of getting the FFG supporters on Social Media increasingly upset as the try to defend the performance of the government. As can be seen, the main point of attack for these people is SF. That effectively reduces the Opposition to SF. Not SF, the SocDems, PBP etc but simply SF. The other parties don't get much of a mention in the news cycle as a result. It is amazing to watch the FFG supporters on SM being played like this.
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24/7 surveillance? 😁 The paranoia!
Well, it would be most rude not to comment on such a stellar post and you are most welcome to my contribution.
Get up the yard is threatening? 😏
FFS. 😏
Gerr'up outta dat! 😏
Sure...no emotional investment. 😁 You have just taken the time to comment on it.
I have no emotional investment in this but my credulity at SF claiming to be a serious party I will admit is being stretched at both the perceived need and the absurd timing of it but far be it from me to deny people a chance to celebrate the mediocre.
Not sure why you are asking here? It’s the opposition supporters who have a 24x 7 surveillance on government TDs, imagine he once went to a concert in his spare time, the cheek of him
You can't say that 🤣🤣 but I do hope he enjoyed the strawberries and cream , delightful, I'm told albeit a little pricey 😁
Humble pie, however quite Bitter 😏
Wasn't Leo at Wimbledon during the week...IN THE MIDDLE OF A HOUSING AND COST OF LIVING CRISS????
Oh my gawd how dare he.
Actually what's more fascinating is that Sneaky meeting of the FF parliamentary Meeting in MM absence, got more media attention than his silly Trip to Kyiv 😁
On the head...
MM says he's looking forward to laying out all the government's achievements. Read off a post-it?
Nothing absurd at all and I'm certainly not alone in my opinion of the silly, utterly pointless trip , I know you'll disapprove but lots of verified reactions on Twitter and indeed on a number of threads.
As for free Travel , I don't presume to know MLM 's travel arrangements but Leo certainly had , perhaps reach out and perhaps ask how he got those very specific details 😏
Wow that was some rant
Taoiseach goes over to support a country in the middle of a war and this is the reaction from someone who wants to talk about turf
Well done MM and the rest of the government for showing our support to Ukraine people. This is what the majority of the Irish people are all about, showing our support to a country when it needs it.
The other cranks as you call them are fully behind the Mica lads so why would they loose votes and seats. Only government TD's will loose seats because what the government is doing for Mica does not go far enough.
I can't believe there is a single real person out there who shares your belief that MM's visit to Kyiv was pointless and merely virtue signalling, thereby logically making it less important than MLMD's shindig junket to Australia.
Absurd.
A free trip and dinner to Australia is more important??? Lads, the sun has got to you today.
SDs, Inds, PBP Lab can all bring one. Don't be worrying mark, there is plenty to hold the government to account.
It politics blanch and as HISTORY shows they will all do this.
In my opinion and a lot of pundits, the outcome will be of interest.
If you were not attached to a party you would see this too and be as interested.
So MM was over in Kyiv discussing the Rebuilding of Ukraine was he now , whilst Things in Ireland in such a state , his priorities are clearly elsewhere, Virtue signalling and besides he'll be long gone before Ukraine even starts Rebuilding, I suppose its not enough to Take in near 40k refugees, with little or no controls, extraordinarly generous supports and put aside €3 billion next year to help fund on going Virtue signalling whilst making pronouncements there's no magic Money tree when it comes to tackling problems at home 😳 Bonkers stuff altogether and this aside from lack of housing and infrastructure to deal with this Virtue signalling nonsense.
The €2k dinner mentioned again 🙄 , despite evidence SF will get absolutely no income from the event which is being organised by the Australian Chamber of commerce. The comparison with MM travelling to Kyiv is just bizzare , but interestingly, MLM is actually meeting the Irish communities over there as well as supporting the event , it may be a cause of bitterness, Leo would struggle to attract such Ticket prices at a table but he could have gone too but obviously not enough to fill his Twitter feed to bother attending.
MM visit to Kyiv was pointless, presumably costly , albeit no absurd hullabaloo over who was protecting him as with Coveneys visit. Nothing more than a photo OP and Virtue signalling, I'd doubt he thought much about Ukraine before March 2022 and will care less if ousted but maybe might rekindle interest again if he gets a Job in Europe which seems , his, Leo and Coveneys goal.
Simon Coveney was in Dublin when he said it blanch.
The purpose of the No Confidence vote is to embarrass Independent TDs who vote for the Coalition of Chaos for favours.
It's forcing them to condone such FFG highlights as hospital waiting lists, the housing disaster, the rental market disaster, A&E chaos, homelessness figures, cuckoo funds, National debt levels, the Childrens hospital, local government corruption/waste, the revised National Broadband Plan, a failing Climate Action Plan, treatment of clerical abuse survivors, cronyism etc etc etc.
A few backbenchers will be very uncomfortable too but many of them know their days are numbered.
I hope the government survive the vote. I really do. I expect they will but at what cost to votes.
Yes really, as they cannot bring another MoC this year, once this one fails.
You are making a hash of your argument. There are only so many votes in Donegal and the polls shows us that there will be 2 government seats coming out of there. The Mica lads will drain votes from the other cranks.
No, he was making a commitment to help rebuild the country.
Just like now, we are helping over 30,000 Ukrainians. I guess you don't like them being here either?
Ahhh, so this isn't about confidence in the government, it is about who leads the opposition. Grubbing around in the dirt for what falls from the top table.
Yes absolutely agree, no one doubts housing or lack of it and cost of living, Mica are priorities, Turf is not a major issue in the over all context of things of course.
I'd personally preffered a MONC in Darragh O Brien and or specific incompetent ministers.
It is the pork barrel politics thing that is going to really cause problems for the budget if there are any more FFG losses. The Independents have form on this and will know which buttons to press. I think that if the budget fails to pass then the government falls. I think that the mica issue and the turf issues will be mentioned during the MNOC speeches but the focus will be on Housing and that's where FFG is weakest.
So many possibilities, none a waste of time from an onlookers point of view.
I'd only be concerned that someone will have to pick up the pieces of the mess left behind, probably unlikely the MONC will succeed but I'll have my popcorn ready 😉
Precisely 😉
How damaging will this MNOC be to the stability of the FFG government?
Will the government last until the budget now that it is a minority government? (Will FFG have to indulge in pork barrel politics to get it passed?)
Will the potential leadership challenge in FF result in Martin suffering the same fate as his one time Bertie Ahern cabinet colleague Cowen? (Removed as FF leader but remaining taoiseach.)
Will FF/FG TDs frustrate Ryan's war on turf?
Other countries are pushing ahead with alternatives and we are talking about turf. If we need to use turf as a last minute resource we can get it no problem. It's not like it's going to get up and walk away.
If we have an energy crisis during the winter I will be surprised if the answer is turf.
We should be ploughing ahead with the alternatives now. Making ourselves as self sufficient as possible.
