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I seem to recall a lot of Shouting, roaring and bullying on numerous occasions coming from the Government benches in the Dail recently 🤔
Changed your tune about MoC have you?
This is the 4th time if I recall SF called one of these. All it leads to is a waste of time in the Dail, shouting and roaring.
I never mentioned a guarantee, but even on the polls, there are still one seat for FG and one seat for FF. So where will the Mica voters bleed votes from??
More of the arrogant anger on display.
Wise words from whoever the neutral political pundit was - this will be a good way to gauge the depth of government support across the house. Will feed into their decision making on the budget too.
It will be interesting to see if FFG have as much support as they think in the Dail, Budget coming up too.
I'm sure you won't find it too difficult to read back over from my post to figure out who's disgusting behaviour I am referring to.
I doubt if the "Kinnegad community" had any say when the meat factory workers and fruit pickers were put into the hotel. Probably a deal was made to house them between the hotel owners and their employers, just as the community had no say when the department made a similar deal the owners to house refugees. If as you say that its "cramped and crowded" then many organs of the state has failed both sets of hotel guests and the owners of the hotel should be held to account for the situation not the local community.
From what I've read so far, nowhere has it being mentioned that the problems that are being reported now also occurred when the workers resided in the hotel, possibly due to the fact that after a day working in a meat factory or picking fruit, the residents were only fit for the bed.
Placing 150 fit young men in a small community with nothing to do , was never going to end well, irrespective of their creed or colour.
It is about being Irish rather than EUnuchs. (The unelected European Commission will have the final say on these regulations according to the media.) Turf is a cultural thing and it may not mean much to Ryan but outside Dublin, it is an issue and people use turf as fuel to heat their houses. This has the potential to become a Country versus the Jackeens issue and rural TDs realise that it may cost them their seats. It may have little effect on the people who vote for Ryan but FF/FG TDs who may find their seats at risk may not be so eager to support Ryan's antics.
Regards...jmcc
Indeed 😏
You'd think if the government really were confident you'd think they'd be a bit more calm and measured.
The thoughts that I gave Higgins a preference at the last election. That said she's more preferable to John Curran.
Screaming match on the Friday Gathering, Claire Byrne RTE radio 1 😁
A guess that is entirely wrong, not only that but Many Independent TD"s and indeed Government TD'S very dependent on this "Tiny" number as you call us.
Still tiny number, half of whom will never support Sinn Fein at a guess
The research found almost 14% of households use turf, including 4% for whom it is their primary source of heating.29 Apr 2022
An extremely important percentage I might add, as ALL rural TD'S know full well 😏
Such a ban would affect about 1% of the population, can't see it making much of a difference
Cheeky I know, but fun 😁
Scrutiny, blanch. That is where the win is for an opposition. Asking a party that is obviously split on it's leader (secret meetings etc) has the potential to politically damage them. If it were FG or FF history shows they would use this age old political tactic too.
The Turf Wars seem to be escalating. Ryan wants to ban the sale of turf online.
This may bog down FFG's plans for reelection.
I think the Irish independent a verified account, apologies if its not 😉
Why would some FFers vote against the Government in a MONC, triggering an immediate general election, which would see Martin stay on as leader? It seems that the mere mention of a MONC sets off giggling and strange excitement in the ranks.
Anyone with the slightest bit of cop on and political know how can see that the proposed monc vote is to put the spotlight on recently defected govt TDs. Make them put their cards on the table so to speak.
Understandably enough, govt supporters are more than slightly aggrieved by this, trying to downplay the significance (and likely success of it).
Tactically though, I think it's a smart move by SF, who are out manoeuvring at every turn, an absolutely clueless and gormless government who are blindly stumbling from one disaster to another, and keeping in mind we've recently had governments who had to call in the IMF, and the water charge fiasco, that's no mean feat .
It's not about winning the MONC (blanch and is that so) it's all about the optics and repercussions for the "other side".
Personally I hope this sham forced marriage staggers on full term, because ultimately the ongoing damage will be irreparable in the end.
The Indo seems to have some of the details of the meeting. From the article, it seems like the FFers want to replace Martin.
The Tories got rid of Johnson but he's staying as long as he can. The FFers may be thinking of getting rid of Martin before the handover in December. Wouldn't it be funny if some FFers voted against the government in the MNOC to make a point about Martin's grovelling to FG? :) Probably never happen though. They talk the talk but don't walk the walk. Apparently, Martin wants to lead FF into the next GE. That should scare FFers.
I rarely listen to RTE anymore, but had it on in the car. I tweeted a pic of my T**F Delivery to Eamonn, sadly got no response, I was gutted 😉
Sore much?
A MONC is a tactical move and doesn't neccessarily need to be won. It's politics after all.
Hardly ever listen to Morning Ireland. The turf issue is causing problems for rural politician and it will be spun as a clueless Jackeen politician interfering. The rural FFG politicians are probably more aware of the threat of Ryan's brainfart to their electoral prospects. At this stage, the government could be depending on Independents to vote for it in this MNOC.
I don't get the importance and excitement that some posters are attaching to this. It will be defeated soundly, and is just a vehicle for Pearse and Mary-Lou to foam at the mouth for a few hours of sound-bites. Isn't that just everyday stuff?
Pretty good interview on Morning Ireland 😏 interesting discussion on Turf (can i say that word) also.
There is no need for any deflections and it should fail like all the rest of them. It's another dumb SF symbolic move and few politicians in the Dail would thank them if they were to get their own Brexit moment.
Confirmation ofthe MNOC. Let the deflection games begin. :)
Gosh we agree, not of course the only community up in arms not so long ago protesting about DP centres arriving on their door steps, only to find spiritual redemption, new found enlightenment of kindness and genoristy , towards a particular cohort of Refugee.
I call it Hypocrisy....
