4.50 wouldn’t be hectic with the price of inputs after rising the past 12 months, i got 4.15 plus transport last September,4.70 would want to be a minimum
I have never saw price rise in end of July/august. Majority of suckler calves are born feb March April and in turn they hit 30 months august September October. Factories know they’ll get cattle as farmers have the stock and simply have to go as cattle are fit.
€5 is the old €4 due to price of inputs so could be a hard back end to the year after……
Yes but they need to lower the price for the winter finisher to buy cattle to finish next spring or the price would want to be 6e then.
Just looking at an email from my vet tb charges now 7e per head was 5e last year. It's awful hard keep money in these times.
Last year we did mind you that same thing was said that beef prices never rise in July/August. We do not need it to rise but to stabilise. The structure of supply is changing. Last autumn there was 50-80k 2020 cattle slaughtered in the Autumn. There was a strong winter kill as well. At this stage we are 80k ahead of last year's kill. 40k are cows and 40k are 2020 cattle.
Is there a glut of 2020 Feb/ March cattle. Last Autumn there was a fierce thrive this added to last autumn m's slaughter numbers. There was no flood of cattle. It peculiar but I have virtually no February born cattle and a limited number of March born cattle. I have a lot of April and May born cattle not that I intend having them in October and November.
4.70 this September would be the same as 4.15 last September, it might even be less given inflation might not peak at 10% or be sustained for longer.
I think last year they went up 5c the week after I sold last year!!! But that was after the normal steady decline from the June high. It’s the only time I ever remember them going up in august.
agree, we just need prices to stabilise now without a free fall in price first.
That’s why you would want to be getting 4.70,just to cover the rising input costs
Kill seems to be mainly cows. Surprise surprise. 50% are P- grade so it suggests cows slaughtered straight from the parlour.
flesh will surely be scarce at year end with the amount of unfit cattle rolling through.
A mill agent said to me that they cannot keep the ration drawn to the dairy farmers. Strong milk price is encouraging production. Cull cow number will probably drop. Traditionally some of these cows would be grassed until August/September and hung then.
How long more they can use cows to fill gaps is the question.
Good spell of weather on the way by all accounts should be a help too.
Yeah,a relation sent off a few three weeks ago and the front of the Lorry was full, the cattle in the front were along from been finished
Quoted 4.90 for bullocks next week.
Are they full up for this week? What way does your agent see the thing going?
They are backing up catttle so they can not be much of a shortage of finished stock .Normal year prices would hold until mid July before dropping they are very confident of supply going forward it looks like .Where are the brave northern buyers gone???
Yeah said they're full this week. He's saying they are putting alot of downward pressure at the moment, didnt seem overly pushed for cattle. Can't realy trust agents though. Only letting 8/9 lads go that are fit and 30 mths approaching
Yeah that seems to be the plan, try and back up numbers for later in the Autumn, it will be interesting to see how it goes, if the base price is too low this autumn it may put off lads that winter finish,
Our agent told me its alot to do with the 12th July marches in the North always drops beef this time of year not sure why must be less northern usage or people getting outta there
What has northern Ireland's very small beef market got to do with the price of beef. He must be in the same league as Trump's fake news.
Yea possibly but most agents think they own the factory and are just told wat to say
Can't get cattle killed this week coming going to have to wait till Monday week now... surely they can't be able to put on the breaks like that?
Stop same here, starting quoting wanky prices which is always code for we don't want them.
They seem to be that way here as well. Now the thrive was decent last Autumn and again off grass this spring. Lads could be putting cattle straight in without any feeding. Prices seemed to have dropped in the marts to below factory prices.
Factories are winning again....well played Larry👏🏻
These was a lot of store cattle bought at fancy prices 6-10 weeks ago. It was something we have not factored in. Lads may be offloading these for fear of a complete crash.
However things can change in a few weeks. When they are gone they are gone. I saw 16 month old 490 kgs mart weight friesians last Monday in Killmallock.
That is some weight for those type of cattle. A lad could kill them off grass. What was more interesting was that if you slaughtered them they nearly leave a 100 euro margin
agree with Bass on the mart prices, sent 3 cows today to mart and they only did ok, 1st one needs a good bit of feeding but she's only 3 year old, other 2 were 5yr old handy cows with a good cover of flesh, calves came straight off em, now the last one I bought with a calf at foot last Oct for 1200 and the calf made 1050 Monday so I can't complain
Will the World Cup make a difference this year? Not to many having BBQ’s in November
Have they giving you a price for Monday week yet or do you have to wait till next week for a price?
Wait for a price.. unfortunately..he said they are 4.90 as they stand.
The vast majority of these heavy cattle were bought by factories. They were put in feedlots so they had a bank of cattle to kill the trade with. They are deploying them now. Should have seen it coming, they weren't 'starved' for cattle back then, they just knew by paying any price in the marts for a few months, they could kill the trade when the large volumes of grass finished cattle arrived, and they have the 30 month limit in their favour now too. And we thought they had gone soft 😪
Also killing the mart trade so their winter finishers can get cattle cheaper.
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