Armagh have shown their true colours once more, they have been at this shite for years.
Hopefully the Armagh board wont be appealing the upcoming penalties against this incident like they did against Donegal.
Thats disgusting thing to call any other human being. It must be error, I wil clarify for you. Some greatest player ever to play gaa in last 50 years eg
Those Meath team had the only two time footballer of the year along with Brian Fenton Trevor Giles, the best footballer in Ireland at end of 90s along with Michael Donellan.
Brian Stafford Another Footballer of the Year. A man who was scoring 7 8 or 9 pts in semis finals and finals, one of the greatest freetakers of the last 40 years
Colm O Rourke one of the few footballers to Footballer of the year and lost a final. At his peak was best forward in Ireland.
And O Rourke along with Stafford and Bernard Flynn made up best full forward line of the last 40 years and the best full forward line ever after Egan Liston Dwyer
Bernard Flynn was best corner forward in ireland 1988 to 1991. Mickey Sheedy said his performance in 1991 All Ireland final was the greatest performance he ever saw by corner forward in All Ireland final ever.
Robbie O Malley corner back on 87 88 team is considered one the greatest corner backs ever. He is the only corner back along with Marc O se to win Footballer of the year. Michael O Muiritigh said O Malley was the best corner back he saw play. O Mallely was voted right corner back on greatest All star team ever
Martin O Connell, another Footballer of the Year defender, the greatest left half back in history of the game. He is only modern player on the team of Millenium.
Mick Lyons was best full back of the 1980s Ws full back on three international rules teams in a row
Darren Fay was best full back of the 1990s Was full back on three international Ireland rules teams in a row
Gerry McEntee/ Liam Hayes were won of the best midfield partnership in the country in late 80s
Tommy Dowd was one of the best forwards in Ireland in mid 90s as he won 3 all stars in row in 1994 1995 1996 and 4th all star one in 1991.
John McDermont was one of the best midfielders in Ireland in late 90s 96 to 99 was best midfielder captaining sucessful International rules Irish team
Graham Geraghty is the most talented footballer ever to play for Meath. And one of the most talented footballers of the last 40 years. When he was wing back in 1994 he was best wing back in Ireland that year, when he was wing forward in 1996 he was best wing forward in Ireland that year and when he was full forward he was best full forward in Ireland in 99. One of the few all star defenders and forwards and the only top gaa player in last 40 years was top class wing back, top class wing forward, top class full forward
Ollie Murphy was the best corner forward in Ireland 1999 to 2001
And i could mention other quality footballers like Joe Cassells, David Beggy, Mark O Reilly, Evan Kelly, Stephen Bray
THE facts are Meath had one of the greatest manager ever and some of the greatest players of the last 50 year. Meath had one of the greatest managers of all time. The only manager who won All Ireland with no underage sucess along with kevin heffernan eg Boylan 87 88, Heffernan 74. The only manager to win All Ireland with pile of u21s, the youngest teams ever to win Sam along with Mick Dwyer eg Boylan 96 Dwyer 75. One of the few manager to come from nowhere to win Sam eg boylan 96 Dublin 74 Heffernan, Kerry 75 Dwyer, McGrath Down 91 and O Mahoney 98 Galways. And Sean Boylan is the only manager in hurling or football to win All Irelands with two different teams.
And i could mention Joe Cassells, David Beggy, Evan Kelly, Colm Coyle, Mark O Reilly.
Thats why Meath won in 14 years 4 All Ireland titles, reached 7 All ireland finals, won 8 leinster titles, beat Dublin in 7 leinster finals and 3 national league div 1 title. Defeated Dublin incredible 8 times and 4 draws in the championship and draw and win over Dublin in div 1 league final. Great performances like beating Cork in All Ireland final by 5 pts pulling up. Beating Dublin by 9 pts in 88 league final div 1. Winning two in a row in 88 final. The 4 game saga with Dublin, scoring one of the greatest goals ever in championship. A saga that saved gaa after world cup fever and herald in modern age of gaa. The 8 pt defeat of Amragh in 94 league final with total football. The great All Ireland semi finals over Tyrone by 9 pts in 96, Amragh by 6 pts in 99 and kerry by 15 pts in 01. Kerry worst defeat ever in championship. Meath total performacne that day v kerry. That Meath team played brillant attacking swashbuckling football. 3 games saga with kildare, 2nd game is considered one of the greatest games ever. In nearly every official poll, list in papers r forums etc 87 88 Meath team is considered one of the great gaa team ever in top 7 or 8. 96 99 is one of the greatrst team ever to come out of leisnter. leaving Meatb 87 88 team and Dublin teams to one side Meath 96 99 team is best team to come out of leisnter in last 70 years winning 2 All Ireland titles in 4 years.
Well whatever grudge you have, I can't help that. I had a look at the Sunday game analysis and you are indeed correct about who started the row. It was Darren Fay sneakily running out from full back with the ball in his arms who craftily uses his neck to attack the outstretched forearm of poor Ray Dempsey who is just behind him. Not content with that, he strikes Anthony Finnerty's elbow with his chin.
Ya know, the standard way to start a row. If he hadn't succeeded with those moves, then he would likely have had to resort to the tried and trusted tactic of falling on the ground and headbutting some poor fellas boot a few times.
If Coldrick red carded the two captains for being captains, and even if I never rated him that highly as a referee, even for him it would be idiotic, but there does not appear to be any other reason.
If you have two teams where one has been involved in two of these melees this year already, and one has benefited by getting away with it due to their argument of lack of clarification as to what constitutes a melee being accepted on appeal, then they are the team I would look at as most likely being aware there was nothing for them to lose by being involved in another such melee. As far as I know there has been no further clarification by the GAA on what constitutes a melee in the interim 8 weeks.
Are you kidding me? Meath started the whole smozzle like everything they did in the 1980s and 1990s. Delighted to see the end of them in 2001 with the Galway massacre.
I saw two teams having at each other. Comer retaliated and it went from there.
You want to condone retaliation, have at it.
You don't even know what a melee is. A melee is 3 or more person's involved. Hence the rule that the 3rd person in gets punished. You cannot by definition contribute to a melee when there are only two people involved. Armagh instigated and Armagh players started the melee by being 3rd and 4th to become involved.
Galway were as willing to take part in the Melee as Armagh so they may appreciate the ruling as much as anyone.
I even wonder if Coldrick sent off the two caprtains in the knowledge that they could get off and take part in the semi final.
Lads like that have the skin of a rhinoceros and hang out with apes who will pat him on the back for the rest of his life for this incident, won't be a bother on him
A choice was made to eye gouge.. whomever or whatever started it was immaterial. A choice was made.
If you retaliate you are part of the cause of the melee. It takes two sides to have a melee. If it was just Armagh hitting Galway players it would be an attack.
There were two sides involved. Whatever happened before the camera picked it up Comer is seen to follow an Armagh player and use his shoulder twice at the start of the clip. The Armagh player intervenes and the melee kicks off. Had Comer walked away it wouldn't have escalated.
If during that melee the Kelly lad got a shove or puck in the back or arm, accidentally or on purpose, Comer might have lost his sight.
its a bizarre situation where you have knuckle dragging GAA stalwarts excusing somebody gouging somebody’s eye…. Not good.
Yeah, i was at the game as stated already on the thread Comer was walking off the pitch, 20 yards from the side line when he was charged into from behind by Armagh player.
Comer followed after him, the cameras picked it up from there on but the first aggressive act which caused the melee was from the Armagh player.
Banning players from the team that lost is a bit of a joke.......they won’t be playing till next January anyway.
Big county board fine is the answer.
Comer can't be accused of causing a melee. That falls on the third person involved. In this case an Armagh player.
Nothing to do with what I would do or you.
You retaliate, you get punished too.
Takes two sides to cause a melee.
Which is exactly what I said he did, immediately after being shouldered in the back by that same player. Would you just ignore that? He shoved one and grabbed the Jersey of another. Hardly a red card offence.
Ironically courtesy of Armagh, neither Comer or anyone else can be sanctioned for contributing to a melee and not win on appeal. Armagh had four cited for their second melee of the year in the last league match of the year against Donegal. Donegal had two and accepted the sanction which meant those two could not play in the opening game of the championship, Armagh appealed and got their four off.
Their appeal was based on it not being clear what constituted a melee, and despite being asked for clarification by referees none had been provided by the GAA. From that there is no way I can see anybody sanctioned for contributing to a melee not winning their appeal as well.
I would not look on it as coincidence with this latest being Armagh`s third time involved in a melee this year, they were not aware of that and knew damn well what they were at. Other than Tiernan Kelly for gouging, and unfortunately the Galway sub that that gave him the least he deserved on the day they are the only two that will end up with match bans unless some others threw punches or used headlocks and from what I saw Comer did neither.
Other than Coldrick red carding Galway`s Kelly and Armagh`s Nugent because they were captains of both teams I could see no other reason for it. If that was the thinking from Coldrick it was a bit of a brain-fart as there is noting in the rules to justify that.
All the above while dirty acts by the said players were carried out during a game by footballers on the field. This attack was carried out by a member of the public who had no right to enter the field off play and he needs the book thrown at him.
You may have just seen the live broadcast camera angle and not the second camera angle. It wasn`t aimed at the shoulder and it wasn`t mistimed either. It was a reckless frontal charge and a red card offense.
He didnt. The cameras just started following it from when he shouldered into the Armagh man after he bumped him from behind first.
I was sitting in row N, directly in front of the incident and as soon as we saw the Armagh men shout at Comer and one of them make contact with him, we knew a row would follow.
Tbf, it was all just pushing and shoving after an emotional end to the game until the gouge.
Numerous people who were at the game have stated here that the Armagh player had hit comer with a shoulder from behind and he followed and returned the compliment as seen in the video and then it all kicked off from there.
Who said he 'started' the whole thing. Not I.
I said he was no innocent in it.
So Comer started the whole thing. Is everyone happy that he be banned for 2 games? (apart from the gouger, of course).
Colm O'Rourke nailed it for me on RTE GAA podcast. Spot on.
And I would put a lifetime covid lockdown 5km ban on TK, he shouldn’t be allowed outside Armagh again. Let him gouge eyes of his own people up there.
And I’d ban Oisin Mcconville from the RTÉ panel too.
It wasn't a jibe, and was not directed at you personally. I read your post and saw something in it that I wanted to discuss, that's all. I think you read my post and assumed it was me having a go at you. It wasn't!
This is the downside of a discussion forum such as this, I replied to someone else and now you reply to me changing the context completely. The issue initially raised was why the Gardaí did not get involved.
Nobody said there should not be "serious sanctions". The question was why the Gardaí and the legal system was not the adjudicating authority. I did my best to answer that and that alone. I have no idea what your "half educated people" jibe was about.
I would ban Armagh from next year’s championship if I was president of the gaa.
