You milking year round jay?
Imo not a bull for our a+b-c payement structure …..too much water .his linear /type scores a negative too .no issue giving cows some tlc but I feel that type of bull will need a lot ….I’d take a Yamasaka ,,,Larry ,altalawson or a praser over it
Yeah I am, suits the farm here to be honest we can grow alot of grass in the summer, but if we get awet winter/spring combined 60% of the grazing block mighten be got onto from the middle of October to middle of April, its untrafficable, so I concentrate on making good silage that's usually in the diet for 8 months of the year and we would have maize in the tmr from October to May aswell
They’d need an awful lot if feeding just for maintaince let alone produce 700 kgs
No I'd not be going dairy full time cos my off farm job is excellent and I'm not in a great area land wise.
I'd say if I mentioned it to the father he'd combust cos we're just after filling in the pit in our own parlour!!
Ah maybe it's more a dislike of sucklers and drystock rather than a love of milking is prompting me in this direction. There would be zero capital outlay needed is the helpful factor then on the other side.
I'm in a similar situation @trg . Considering it strongly with the option of oad. Capital input would be only a parlour. Housing, paddocks in place. Would have the option of going partime with work.
With the current environmental regs as proposed, it has the potential to reduce the output in some areas. Does it provide an opportunity with 80 cows.
I'm using Nacash for extra kgs of milk and strength in my herd , some fabulous heifers off him. Also using pimorin and okeanos for higher producers I just want a bit more solids off. I don't believe in immunity plus jay, just a salesman trying to have an edge. Health is generally down to good feet, legs and type plus good vaccination and diet management. Have some really great muchos in the herd too. Cows currently doing 28litres 40% autumn
I dunno would I be taking on the extra work if you have good off farm career but I totally see where your coming from with the sucklers, I had no interest in converting to that even though plenty of the neighbours advised me, sure you'd be aswell off with the few sucklers and your job..
If you could get a reliable milker say for 3 mornings a week it may be viable at say 60 cows if you could milk that many.
It's the spring calving where I feel the pinch here, especially if facilities aren't top notch. You need somebody around full time really I think
Unless op really really wants to go milking cows I’d steer clear ….labour and reliable labour is a huge issue and from what has been outlined it’ll be needed …..beef farming ….contract rearing in conjunction with a job a better fit imo
I'd probably agree with you to be honest, without my father at home keeping an eye on things I don't think any type of dairying is compatible with a job.
Neighbours of mine are hosting the Irish Pure Friesian open day on 21-July: https://thatsfarming.com/dairy/grenan-pure-friesian/
Top cows and sensible men.
Their places bounds ours. I’ll go along for a look but will leave the cheque book at home just in case I’m tempted 😀
What's a genetically proven more heritable trait health our fertility, riddle me this also is it a Irish bull our international bull that's the highest valued on health traits in Ireland currently on the ebi system....
Re the salesman dig, I've never bought a bull of a rep that he's recommended pick my own sires give him the codes and he imports them, the single biggest dig aimed at holstein cows is their soft, always something wrong, don't last etc if you breed specifically for health traits while keeping other indexes to the fore also you can't go to wrong
Used bungees on a farm I milk at to keep it closed but got a new lid this year and no hassle with it now
Would anyone milk 3in2 here see its a big thing in NZ especially from around now after breeding and into the summer change the milking pattern so youl have a lie in every second morning and no milking that evening. I was away abroad for a few weeks left dad do the milking had an ad up on donedeal for a few weeks looking for a milker for 5-7 milkings a week whatever milkings they wanted to do and still got no replies, thought during summer thered be some young lads mad for milkings 50€ for 2 hours hard go wrong but no lads arent there to do it, 3 in 2 would take pressure off lads and just reading on the NZ research only losing 9kgs ms/cow for the year from now on? Would be interesting to do it but hard trial or get the father to trial when you see theres nobody else in Ireland doing it
Have been 3 in 2 here since start of year mostly for labour reasons, trailed it end of last year as well. I can't give you any exact figure of where we are % reduction production wise because there has been a few other variables this year. Currently 1.8kg ms @ 5.1 fat and 4 pr with young herd, cows in great condition and so far repeats have gone well. Milk 6 and 3 then 10 following morning nice to get the slightly later start in morning, worked well in spring got good chance every second day to get ahead of calves etc
Stupid question but do the cows get confused when they’re brought out of the paddock at different times every other day?
Rather than say a regular routine of 7 and 5 every day?
Not really after a week they got fairly into the routine
Why would someone put out slurry today with a yellow rain warning for tonight?
Is it ignorance, stupidity or just couldn't give a phuq attitude?
To wash it in, bit of ignorance?
Hardly any cavalier attitude to slurry now with the price of N?
Latest arrival on the farm last night. A cracker.
Ya, she's grand but what's the EBI? 😂😂
A little bit of all of the above I'd say. Contractors are always busy and you have to take them when you get them alot of the time. I'm getting alot more value from my slurry this year having my own tank.
Nice addition- I’ve 2 really nice ones coming this week
Can the industry ever get to the point of voluntarily cutting out high risk actions such as this?
While this continues, water quality can never be right..
I would suspect water quality will improve with the price of fertillisers going forward mainly due to less spreading in January/October and better slurry management.
Dont know yet, but EBI wont put milk in the tank.
The fact that ye are calving cows and feeding new born calves in the middle of summer is the greatest advertisement for EBI I can think of!
What about it ……worse to loose a good cow just cause she dosnt fit in a 9/10’week calving window .if lads are milking year round having an odd cow calving in may/June no big deal ..regardless of ebi
Who are calving cows in the middle of summer ? Not me. Moorepark Curtins are supposed to be the business. Milk yield now down to 16 litres 1.5 Kgs solids. Is that what you aspire to.
Last cow calved here today. Had a few problems with repeats last summer. Nice to see milk staying up rather than dropping at this time of year.
