Without seeing the grass quality and management it's hard to advise, I always found that cattle needed 60days plus feeding to kill out properly. As you say those cattle would only be getting used to that feeding after three weeks. It's the next months feeding that'll pull down the scales
They are only starting to react to the ration at present. At 10 pounds that is 4.5kgs they are replacing two kgs of grass DM with ration. At grass the most I feed is 3kgs/head so that as much grass remains in the died as possible
They’re on meal since the June bank holiday. On 10 pound of meal per day. I’m feeding them well in fairness. The butty ones are well fleshing up.
Are they fed much and for long.
Friesians that are 280-320 kgs DW even of well fed would have a fair amount of P's and FS's 2+ or even below this spec.
After all that 5 flat should be an ok price. On the grid P+ is 4.8/ kg, O- is 4.98 and O= is 5.12
A P will pull two O= cattle to near 5/kg
Is a flat price inclusive of any QA bonus or is that added on top?
Would €5 flat for Fr bullocks be a good price? Could be going in 2 weeks time. I’ve 65 but about 20 near fit to go. Between 280kgs and 320kgs. Probably Os but there’s always Ps. There’s kiwi Frs and I can see Jersey influence there also. Plus Norwegian Reds. Don’t talk to me about MoX. Thanks in advance.
Jesus lads here in the South East we could do with another 50-60mm of rain straight away.
Southwest getting a hammering too over the past few days. Rain was needed alright but an awful lot is falling. 58mm in the rain gauge since Thursday, 20mm of that fell in 2 hours on Friday morning. Heavyish ground here and its holding up ok but heavy cattle need to be moved on quicker so bad cleanouts now. Another 40mm+ forecast here over the next 24 hours so things could be messy. Hopefully things squeeze up quickly after tonight's deluge.
Bass you have nailed on the head. The west has been hammered. Looked at the homemade rain gauge (a bucket the kids left in the lawn) since Thursday night there is a good 3 inches in it. So long as it knows when the stop. Growth is exploding as ground needed that rain. A lot of it ran off thank god, as it would have made it very stick here with heavy ground. The heat wave is needed.
We have enough rain now until next year. The neighbour was a hour later milking yesterday evening. The cows had a half acre reddened inside the gap while waiting to be let in.
Heatwave required!
I think .any along the east coast do not realise the amount of rain we have got. Along the South and West. On good land it made no difference and I needed it badly.
However we have got three inches at present. From today on it was projected that we would get nearly another two inches. That has reduced to less than an inch.
Temperatures are back to 10-15C. On wetter land this would put pressure on farmers with heavy stock. It looks like it will clear and temp increase towards the weekend. But another week of this would put the west coast under pressure
If it keeps raining then we will start to see cattle off heavier land being off-loaded.
That rain is a gift, great to see it, some burst of grass yesterday and today
They will all right, places were starting to get dry
Factorys will be sorry to see rain coming, id say they were hoping grass would be scarce
most people would be delighted with that price, hopefully it’s there to be got
Have a batch of spring 2021 AA heifers and bullocks 425-550kg that I was planning on killing off grass by October..nearly temped to move them on now with grass being tight,and meal going to be dear in the autum.was told they should make €2.60-€2.70/kg now even with prices back..anyone around marts seeing what those type of animal are making?..hoping to catch a few marts this coming week and see
Absolutely. I’d be delighted with €5.20 in the middle of august. The key would be a stable price and then you’d be able to feed on your cattle to when is right for you. The drop in price panics and stresses a lot of farmers, understandably so.
He is top at his job .... No messing or messers tolerated in that mart. For a place not much bigger than a village he is able to attract 1k at this time of the year is some achievement.
I take 5.2/5.25 all summer long and be a happy man if you are right
Great mart. That's a good man but his boss is the daddy of them all. We all hear about how clever Mauty is in Gortatlea, but David Quinn in Carnew would be the shrewdest in Leinster.
if this mart manager is right it hard to see prices being continually pushed down.
What are O grade cull cows making in the factory at the minute?
So you reckon it should settle around the 5kg till September? If this scenario happens with lads slow to feed cattle when should this become obvious?
In the Autumn the trade never kicks on until after Christmas. You often see a pull this time of year to flush out cattle. However many sit out these early pulls as selling cattle slightly unfit is a complete waste of time with plain cattle especially.
Hard to know. It hard to see the 5/kg being broken down before late July. The biggest issue is are lads feeding at grass. With lads slow to spread fertilizer and reluctant to buy ration there may not be a flush for 4-6 weeks yet. But that could cause havoc in September
So what price will the thing settle at for the next month or two? Cattle are scarce back this way anyway most lads fed out of the shed
I don't see it kicking on until mid October and by then a lot could change but I'm predicting highs of 10% on this year and costs to increase above that
Why can you See the trade kicking on again?
Wouldn't disagree with you Bass but they just looked like cattle that would at least hold their value and weren't overfed, over the last few weeks those cattle were alot dearer was my point only, but I'm slow enough spending my own money not to mind someones elses😀
Not know much about fancy cattle but 450 at 1150 will leave a bob, 450@ 1350 will probably not.
Ration over a 400/ton. To get them heifers Into 350 DW you would need 150-170 kgs LW off there mart weight. There is probably only another 8 weeks of good thrive. Ration is 400/ ton
If they eat a half ton of ration that is 200 euro. At 350 DW at a price of 4.80/kg you are looking at 1680 euro
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