The Right religious conservatives and who knows who else have today overturned the constitutional right to abortion in the US.
Will this now embolden anti abortionists in this country to fight back?
The US is a cold place for women now.
or in other words, we suffered so you will too.
What if you can't afford it? What if you get sued when you return by a neighbor for doing so (like in Texas.)
And, what if there's a national abortion ban and there are no states. Go to Canada? Mexico? Will you pay?
And remember, you've got maybe 6 months before you can't.
It is good to see you're all about forcing women and children to give birth. Just in case there was any doubt.
Mind your own business.
Bottom line.
Dont a number of states have laws, like in Texas, that prevent you leaving the state to have an abortion, like you can be charged with an offence when you return to Texas?
Well I find your opinions to be a disgusting display of misandry
Texas doesn't prosecute women who leave the state for an abortion.
Ultimately, women who wish to avail of abortions in states where they are now illegal need to travel to other states where it is legal. Energy from activist groups might be best channeled to helping women who may have difficulty affording the travel expenses because overturning this decision is highly unlikely.
The ironing is delicious!
That's why people have abortions.
the dems could pass a federal law allowing it nationwide but they're too busy trying to fundraise off it.
they could fix it right now but as usual they're too weak to help regular people
You'd feel sorry for the women in their lives, if there are any.
And if you can't afford to go to another state?
i hear ya!
There's no comparison. One was a democratic referendum, whereas the bans in the US came about from changes of votes from nine people.
Do tell then, how did Roe v Wade come into effect?
Also, I never said there was a comparison on how both the Irish and USA situations were arrived at - I've said it is quite similar where both are at now. Different journeys, same destination.
Poor black people tend not to be progressive left, that is a White middle class and up niche.
It isn't about a fall in abortion rates in the Appalachian mountains they are worried about.
Why do you think you speak for the women of the world? It's even more odd when you consider the fact that a sizable amount of American women are against abortion.
Why is treating women like the adults that they are considered hatred of women? Unless I'm missing something, that's one of them most bizarre takes I've came across on this site.
Theocracy.
you are berating women for taking responsibility and terminating an unwanted pregnancy.
you want them to suck it up and give birth, regardless of the womans circumstances.
you then tell them to stop being poor and just travel out-of-state to a place where they can get the procedure done.
tone deaf and unwilling to listen to women who don't want to continue a pregnancy
Why do you think what a woman does with her body has anything to do with you? Do you stick your nose in every issue that doesn't concern you?
It'll be all good of course until someone whips a Koran out.
Could they? Have they the numbers in Congress? I don't really understand how filibusters and all that stuff works.
they could get rid of the filibuster if they wanted but they won't.
you can bet your last euro that the GOP will get rid of it the second they have power and need to.
Everybody should be made to watch a video of some 12yr girl giving birth when they shite on about being anti-abortion. To listen to the fear and pain involved.
Disgusting amount of misogyny in this thread. Those ever empathic Christians, somehow always managing to ignore the lessons of the person they claim to follow.
Swing and a miss, again.
Must be sh*t being wrong all the time.
I don't think you realise the poverty millions of Americans are in....
My previous post was literally about early prevention methods, so no I don't want to force them to have a child that they don't want. True self-responsibility would be dealing with the problem, or potential problem, as soon as it exists. Your position is analogous to there being a fire in bin in your kitchen, but you do nothing about it till you it reaches you in the sitting room. Why would anyone rationally do that? Why would they let the problem get to that stage? There's absolutely no reason there at all, and very few, very rare circumstances that could explain something like that. Like I said in another post, you're ignoring the all the ways to stop the potential problem, because it's the only way you can internally rationalize your position.
And you can call me all the names under the sun, as I really don't care, as your position remains the same: weak and fragile.
you dont actually know how a womans cycle works, do you?
you can easily be pregnant and not know it till 6-8 weeks have passed. sometimes longer
but here you are, wagging your finger at women who choose to opt for an abortion.
women who have made an incredibly hard decision but one that they've decided is best for them and their situation
none of your business and quite telling that you're trying to get between a woman and her doctor.
Sure she's just taking responsibilty for her actions don't ya know? A great bunch of lads that don't have to go through pregnancy or childbirth but have the audacity to think they can dictate to women how they should and shouldn't deal with their pregnancies. A bunch of cells is more important to these psychos than an actual child. The best part is they pretend to care about "human life".
I travelled to some of these red states with work over the years. The level of poverty was shocking. people sitting on the porch of their trailer home which are falling apart, these people were old and young (20 to 60 years old), missing teeth, holes in teeshirts, no shoes ... I am not joking. Probably lived off food stamps.
So I totally get why no way in hell could they afford a bus ticket, cheap motel, etc to a blue state to seek a termination.
I really hope the charities which are getting lots of fundings these days can help these poor girls and women.
Ah, I see you've conveniently overlooked my point, that many American woman don't agree with you. Why would you do that exactly? And as for your 2nd line, I hope I never see you promoting trans issues, racial issues, or any other hot topic on the left, because they don't concern you. That won't happen though will it? Because your ideology hinges on fighting for the supposedly oppressed.
You people really want to own this discussion; as in your views existing and nothing else, but that's not how the world works, so you're going to have to grow up and get used to the fact that the world doesn't bend to your will.
