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He who shall not be named had this last night, which makes me think there is some gobsh*te in the county board feeding him information which means as long as this gombeenism continues I struggle to trust the Mayo county board will do anything to benefit Mayo football over factional self interest
Juggernaut Dublin may have been but a few matches against them, the drawn 2016 AI especially was a game that was more there to be won than the 2012,2021 AI finals against Tyrone,Donegal IMO.
No one man has done as much for Mayo football as James.I just hope whoever takes over can keep us at the top table.
We have the players (especially with injured lads to come back) for next year but we are at a crucial juncture now.The likes of Ray Dempsey are not going to be the answer (no disrespect to him) I think Andy should go for it.
Unfortunately we took a step backwards with regards to the County board personnel and I have no faith in them to do anything right.
Clareman here. Just want to acknowledge the professionalism and class that James Horan showed throughout his two stints as Mayo manager.
Always came across as decent skin in interviews and yesterday was no different, compare that to the nonsense and tetchy conduct of the Armagh manager yesterday.
Maurice Sheridan who managed NUIG to Sigerson Cup success earlier in the year and Solan who managed the Mayo U21’s to All Ireland glory in 2016, a game that I was at, as it was in my hometown In Ennis, would be the local contenders for the vacant gig. What about Kevin McStay?
An outside and external candidate should be the replacement for Horan. But please don’t go near Jimmys winning matches. Had limited stints with the Galway footballers and the Waterford hurlers and by all accounts he flogged them so hard that the players nearly had their legs broken off.
Eamonn Fitzmaurice would be my pick. Led a bang average Kerry team to win the All Ireland in 2014. But whether the Mayo CB would go for such a left field candidate is very doubtful, especially after their shanigans during the Holmes-Kennelly debacle in 2014/2015.
Jack O'Connor is someone who i feel would have potentially improved us. It is unfortunate that he is gone back to kerry at this juncture.
I too feel that at present, there is damn all between the best teams in the country, and that a good appointment with some returns from injury and returns to form for a few more could see us right in the shake up.
The thing is, what managers are out there? Gavin wont happen, (i dont think it would work anyway, personally) Neither will mcguinness.
Ray dempsey? Kevin walsh? Mickey harte? I couldnt see mcdonald going for it but i see value in his presence.
Horan is almost solely responsible for where we are now and where we have been for the last decade and some. Few people have done as much for Mayo GAA.
It's a shame he never won it.
Having said that I do think it's time for a change
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I've been crying all day after it
Bit of context here; I live in the Charlestown area (have done for 40 years). Anyway, I'm on here with a serious question. Did my post after the game yesterday (for which I've received a warning for "trolling") genuinely upset/annoy/ people on here? If it did, I apologise for said annoyance/upset that it caused. I don't, however, apologise for the actual post. It was posted in the aftermath of the game, and the sense of annoyance I felt at another opportunity being thrown away. Could I have phrased it differently? Quite possibly. But I tend to call things as I see it. Anyway; once again, apologies for any upset that I may have caused.
Loved Horan's first stint in charge and wished he had stayed on for 2015. Was perhaps unlucky not to finish the job in those years.
He revitalised everything and did a huge amount for our psyche. Ultimately a limited manager maybe, but a great rebuilder.
Important to get the next appointment right but I've little faith in the county board.
Not sure if that plastic-Englishman would be up to it tbh.
Word on the grapevine is they already have the new man lined up. A bit of a surprise candidate. Chap by the name of Tim o' Leary.
Appoint an All Ireland winning Manager ( Gavin, Mc Guinness, Fitzmaurice), what ever it costs, do it for the sake of Mayo Football. No time for experimenting with an Untried County Manager.
Hopefully it isn’t a backwards step with Horan departing, ideally someone with better game management skills will come in and build on his work but I’ve little faith that the correct appointment will be made.
Best of luck to Horan though, he did his best with what he had and would’ve wanted more than anyone to be the manager to end the drought. It wasn’t to be and after last year, it looked like he just didn’t have the tools to make that happen. There’s no shame in that, most wouldn’t even come as close as him. His skills are probably best suited to identifying and assisting players to make the leap from the U20s to the senior setup.
Agree with that. I think we'll go close again next year providing we get a good replacement.
I don't think the new manager will have to face the likes of the juggernaut that was that Dublin 6 in a row team so even though the squad won't be as good as previously we still have potential to be there or there abouts I think.
No surprise to be honest, he gave us some memorable days though. Hardly his fault players cant put the ball over the far from 20 metres. Was not a fan of his in game management but best of luck to him.
In full rebuilding mode it was achievement in itself to reach back to back All Ireland finals in his 2nd term. He has once again left a rebuilt panel behind for the next manager to take over not the same talent and leadership as was left behind in 2014 however.
Will be interesting to watch
Let's hope there isn't a balls made of the appointment process this time around.
Just announced that Horan is stepping down as manager..
What now?
Its both. His season as a whole was one of his poorer ones, but his performance yesterday was an improvement and furthermore he was probably better than several other middle third players - none of whom are getting much criticism here. Surely you can see how biased that makes the thing sound?
Why do I have to either think he is great or sh*te? It is far more nuanced than that.
He got a black card but it was a bad call. He didnt deserve a black card. I dont see how you can criticise him for that, its completely unfair. It should have been a yellow card for both, or nothing for either. Im no oshea apologist, but we have to be fair with assessments if we want to improve.
Thing is he seems to do it in space also, and when trying to break from cover. In the past, afterburners on, hop and a solo and Paddy was gone, now its his little toe tap and he is still in traffic. And while he is still getting forward there seems to be less intent and pace. Injury still a concern I wonder?
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O'Neill had a similar solo, it definitely left his hand which was enough
Yeah, I presume he releases it a small amount
I always thought it had to leave the hand though, maybe he is releasing it a few mm.
It's legal alright I'd say - the rule is "may be played from the foot to the hand - toe-tapped". I presume he does it as it's harder for an opponent to flick the ball away
Not even sure it's a solo anymore. More like a toe tap.
He seems to only do it under pressure / when surrounded, I'm surprised opposition haven't been calling out for frees for it tbh.
Whats the story with the Durcan solo? Its very annoying to watch and if anything it seems to slow him down
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