if this mart manager is right it hard to see prices being continually pushed down.
Great mart. That's a good man but his boss is the daddy of them all. We all hear about how clever Mauty is in Gortatlea, but David Quinn in Carnew would be the shrewdest in Leinster.
I take 5.2/5.25 all summer long and be a happy man if you are right
He is top at his job .... No messing or messers tolerated in that mart. For a place not much bigger than a village he is able to attract 1k at this time of the year is some achievement.
Absolutely. I’d be delighted with €5.20 in the middle of august. The key would be a stable price and then you’d be able to feed on your cattle to when is right for you. The drop in price panics and stresses a lot of farmers, understandably so.
Have a batch of spring 2021 AA heifers and bullocks 425-550kg that I was planning on killing off grass by October..nearly temped to move them on now with grass being tight,and meal going to be dear in the autum.was told they should make €2.60-€2.70/kg now even with prices back..anyone around marts seeing what those type of animal are making?..hoping to catch a few marts this coming week and see
most people would be delighted with that price, hopefully it’s there to be got
Factorys will be sorry to see rain coming, id say they were hoping grass would be scarce
They will all right, places were starting to get dry
That rain is a gift, great to see it, some burst of grass yesterday and today
If it keeps raining then we will start to see cattle off heavier land being off-loaded.
I think .any along the east coast do not realise the amount of rain we have got. Along the South and West. On good land it made no difference and I needed it badly.
However we have got three inches at present. From today on it was projected that we would get nearly another two inches. That has reduced to less than an inch.
Temperatures are back to 10-15C. On wetter land this would put pressure on farmers with heavy stock. It looks like it will clear and temp increase towards the weekend. But another week of this would put the west coast under pressure
We have enough rain now until next year. The neighbour was a hour later milking yesterday evening. The cows had a half acre reddened inside the gap while waiting to be let in.
Heatwave required!
Bass you have nailed on the head. The west has been hammered. Looked at the homemade rain gauge (a bucket the kids left in the lawn) since Thursday night there is a good 3 inches in it. So long as it knows when the stop. Growth is exploding as ground needed that rain. A lot of it ran off thank god, as it would have made it very stick here with heavy ground. The heat wave is needed.
Southwest getting a hammering too over the past few days. Rain was needed alright but an awful lot is falling. 58mm in the rain gauge since Thursday, 20mm of that fell in 2 hours on Friday morning. Heavyish ground here and its holding up ok but heavy cattle need to be moved on quicker so bad cleanouts now. Another 40mm+ forecast here over the next 24 hours so things could be messy. Hopefully things squeeze up quickly after tonight's deluge.
Jesus lads here in the South East we could do with another 50-60mm of rain straight away.
Would €5 flat for Fr bullocks be a good price? Could be going in 2 weeks time. I’ve 65 but about 20 near fit to go. Between 280kgs and 320kgs. Probably Os but there’s always Ps. There’s kiwi Frs and I can see Jersey influence there also. Plus Norwegian Reds. Don’t talk to me about MoX. Thanks in advance.
Is a flat price inclusive of any QA bonus or is that added on top?
Are they fed much and for long.
Friesians that are 280-320 kgs DW even of well fed would have a fair amount of P's and FS's 2+ or even below this spec.
After all that 5 flat should be an ok price. On the grid P+ is 4.8/ kg, O- is 4.98 and O= is 5.12
A P will pull two O= cattle to near 5/kg
They’re on meal since the June bank holiday. On 10 pound of meal per day. I’m feeding them well in fairness. The butty ones are well fleshing up.
They are only starting to react to the ration at present. At 10 pounds that is 4.5kgs they are replacing two kgs of grass DM with ration. At grass the most I feed is 3kgs/head so that as much grass remains in the died as possible
Without seeing the grass quality and management it's hard to advise, I always found that cattle needed 60days plus feeding to kill out properly. As you say those cattle would only be getting used to that feeding after three weeks. It's the next months feeding that'll pull down the scales
Very good description
The snakes are a lot longer than the ladders
Factories playing games. Quoting 5-5.05/ kg and saying they are full. Killing last of the shed cattle probably at 5.2/ kg or even higher but trying to back up grass cattle.
Have 5 bullocks 26-28 months c.600kg, go to mart now or hang on Bass?
I wouldn’t be so sure. There’s an awful lot of dairy beef stock that’ll be coming 30 months old from July to October and lads will move them on no matter what the price.
Factories bought a huge amount of stock in the marts over the past 3 months so they could do this cutting, they have regained some control now again. True a lot of HE and AA were hung at 18 months and more earlier this year. Still most of the FR bullocks though approaching 30 months now, I have 12 myself and a few that will be 30 months in a couple of weeks. They are borderline P/O- now anyway so am tempted to leave them run over the 30 months and take my chances as they have only started to flesh up properly now. Its a though one to call.
How do you think it will play out? If they get it under 5 will it stop at that?
Alo will depend on ground conditions ,over 4 inches of rain here in s.w. and counting in a 4 days and we have enough now .I off loaded a fortnight ago as growth slowed due to lack of rain so we needed it as but enough is enough!!!
How the factories let prices rise out of control the last month is beyond me
It’s funny, back here we could do with more, everywhere is still very dry, hopefully things will settle down but your right I don’t know how the factory’s let the thing over heat so much the past month
