Armagh have shown their true colours once more, they have been at this shite for years.
Hopefully the Armagh board wont be appealing the upcoming penalties against this incident like they did against Donegal.
In fairness, McGeeney condemned it unequivocally which was a sensible thing to do, and he is a fairly sensible guy I would think.
The difficulty with it is that regardless of who starts it, once its starts the gaa 'code' is that both sides have to pile in.
The only way to stop it is strong punishments. Am sure people will laugh and say its over the top, but if both sides were thrown out of next years championship, am sure you would not see too many more of these 'melees' (cant stand this word).
There is a lot of focus on the eye gouging, as if the general fight and the eye gouging should be treated separately - dont agree with this at all. Any of the players that piled in were part of what happened.
If people truly believe that its unacceptable, then they should expect appropriate punishments.
This is nonsense. The management do not encourage various things, like lazy passes or sloppy tackling, but the players still do it.
There are two issues here. The melee, and both sides rushed into that, and the gouging which deserves a long suspension. However, the gouging came about in the heat of the moment because of the melee,something needs to be done about the all in approach in general.
Completely separate thing - whatever happens on social media is completely outside the control of the GAA, the gardai and pretty much everyone else in the country. You can carp on about it not being right, and of course you are 100%, but its hardly a surprise and the only way a public figure can really protect themselves is by having a private account or else shutting down the account.
ah would you give over playing that card. Its a game of football.
So ya dont know how many armagh players?
If you actually bothered to read back there was no comparison made at all. It was completely different conversation about finding trouble in most cities and areas in Ireland. No like for like comparison of that incident vs the shooting.
jeff can’t be bothered to go back and look, selective reading is in play here, only seeing what he wants to see.
but don’t let it get in the way
Obviously it was a scummy move,I was sat right in front of the row and the whole thing was serious enough.I hope he gets a ban,6 months maybe.
However,people posting his personal fb account online as in the above article is also a scummy move.Hes a young lad and doesn't deserve to have his life and health destroyed over this.
I'm from Mayo so no affiliation to any team involved.
Like Galway didn't do with Cianan Fahy after his hideous stamp on an injured player? Galway County Board did the very opposite, finding a loophole to get Fahy off. Disgusting behaviour. I hope the Armagh County Board do not stand by their gouger like Galway did.
In a very unsurprising turn of events, McGeeney refused to condemn eye gouging and tried to portray Armagh as the victims.
The Name of the Eye Gouger Has Been Released & His Getting 'Dog's Abuse' (benchwarmers.ie)
It will indeed be very interesting to see what type of ban he gets
Loads died, went to jail, were maimed, ...a mini Ukraine situation you know nothing about.
It had and still has a massive impact on the people in Nationalist areas of the 6 counties, there was no boundaries or help for the guts of a hundred years .
I knew a girl well from South Armagh, practically every family had tragic events in their lives, deaths, long prison sentences, daily harassment from the security forces . Helicopters flying over your house or over your football field in Crossmaglens case.
Nobody goes through all that shitt without been hardened or have angry management issues , chip on your shoulder, die for your people etc , it 'll be there for generations and many from there are used to no law and order and us in the South stood idly by and let all of that happen. Yesterday was a small by product of built up anger in some of the Armagh players/subs.
What a stupid stupid comparison.
When I used to volunteer at Parnell Park, Armagh days were always **** vicious, and that was just the fans.
Maybe I should apologise in advance for the cynicism of what I'm going to say but I think the best thing Armagh GAA can do at this point is throw Kelly under the bus themselves. Put out a statement condemning the eye gouge and say that McGeeney has decided that Kelly will not be part of the panel next year but may return in 2024. Include a few words of an apology from Kelly as well.
He is going to get the book thrown at him so Armagh would be better off getting ahead of any actions from Croke Park.
You’ve taken that out of context. But whatever suits your narrative. Enjoy
Using the absolute tragedy of the farm shootings in Kanturk to claim that this kind of stuff happens in most counties.
Point out where I defended them. Go on.
i actually called it out numerous times yesterday on here
lazy Jeff, lazy.
Hahah i think your probably overestimating how many people died man. Out of how many of that armagh team dya think their da died in the troubles? Id go with zero. Kids shouldnt be drinking lattes either! Hahah
Have been to games in Croke Park as a neutral involving both Armagh and Tyrone. Edge in the air.
Serious chip on the shoulder, add booze to the mix and a lot of very angry people.
The physical/'dark arts' side of the game has been encouraged and instilled at the club level from a very young age in an awful lot of Armagh clubs to a much greater extent and over many more generations than in any county I know. I wouldn't want the physical side of the game wiped out, and there's certainly been more than a hint of dark arts around any great winning side, but Armagh more than any other county seem to have given up on treading the fine line and regularly jump head first into thuggery.
It isn't a, 'Nordie' problem, it is an Armagh problem.
I'd be more wondering what's going on with your personal life that you're on here defending Armagh's behaviour.
Your missing the point, if you were brought up at a young age without any father because of a war like world you grew up in you will be very different to someone been bought a Latte every saturday with your father in Eyre Square .
Its not right but unfortunately people from Crossmaglen and Claregalway lived in different worlds and it shaped people differently.
Hahahahaha. I am not angry in the slightest, happy out here wfh of a monday just had a croissant and a lovely coffee. Ignore away, another one who loves a bit of eye gouging. Good luck to you sir.
Another one added to the ignore list. WUM
the Dublin thread seems to be a breeding ground for strange angry men. Gusser09 and now this boyo.
very unusual indeed, I wonder what’s going on in their personal life that they’re so angry on here
So you are saying they are more passionate as opposed to being scumbags?
An awful act but I would be slow to vilify one person and lay it all at his door, which would suit the GAA and Armagh. This person cant be made a scapegoat of to allow the rest of the squad and backroom off Scott free.
If this person thought it was a good idea to do what he did, it obviously is a culture promoted within the squad. This is Armaghs third involvement in a mass brawl in this competition. Questions have to be asked of McGeeney and the culture he is overseeing.
The likes of Donaghy in his backroom team doesn't help he was an awful mouthy cynical player in his time.
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I do feel though that the situation politically in the 6 counties for the last 100 years has created a battle hardened population in counties like Armagh when we in the South literally abandoned 6 county nationalists to the mercy of Loyalist Murder gangs and British forces who treated nationalists brutally and like dirt.Many GAA people suffered desperately and only those who endured it really know the impact of not knowing whether you'd be alive or in jail next week or not.Children saw horrible things and thats very recent stuff we in the south know bugger all about as we were told look the other way by our government & RTE.
If the people of Galway or other counties had suffered the same the shoe could be on the other foot, clearly playing GAA is more than a sport to people in the 6 counties who would probably die for their jersey whilst us in the south would have a softer outlook. Doesn't excuse the behavior of some yesterday but situations you endure and were raised in mould you .
The carry on of some of the Armagh players yesterday was bordering on assault off the ball as well and to say unsporting would be an understatement , god only knows what that number 2 was saying at stages to players, the Eye gouger from Armagh probably committed one of the worst acts ever in Croke Park ( which is saying something), should get a ten year ban minimum.
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