The Right religious conservatives and who knows who else have today overturned the constitutional right to abortion in the US.
Will this now embolden anti abortionists in this country to fight back?
The US is a cold place for women now.
If your morals come from a 200 year old constitution and a 2000 year old bible I think you may be going backwards. I certainly wouldnt believe a lot of what they believed in 200 years ago was right.
I don't believe the ruling precludes Congress from instituting a federal law on this issue
The point flew over your head. Democrats want late term abortions , including up to the third trimester. Do you agree, yes or no?
It probably would not.
Interesting to see that be attempted.
I can already guess how ‘distracting’ the female vote will be 😏
Saunder's campaign was 'finished' when Obama intervened with other candidates to ensure they backed Biden at the same time he was lying that he hadn't intervened in the campaign....
Both sides have already raised the possibility
Three of them I believe, he's not responsible for the basket case that is Thomas though!
This classic has popped up a few times again. Good old George. Nothing has changed since.
These kinda threads are a sad reminder that there are a huge amount of deeply unpleasant individuals on boards.
You didn't read my post, did you?
I'll answer your question when you engage in good faith instead of copying and pasting sh*t you read on the internet.
It's a discussion forum. Have a discussion instead of peddling the same bad-faith nonsense.
I think most people agree with that and that's reflected in the low number of abortions that happen after 21 weeks and an even far lesser number than that who would avail of it in month 9, but that doesn't eliminate the possibility one might be suitable. For example, why ask a woman to carry a braindead/stillborn fetus through the last 3 months of pregnancy if it had a brain hemorrhage at month 6, or lost its heartbeat having once developed one?
In large part a consequence of his actions yes. Perhaps not 'unintended' but a consequence he was indifferent to when he was reaping the political reward of those actions...
Again, for you. A medical abortion is when you take pills. Did you mix up a medical abortion and a medically necessary abortion in your post?
Do you think a woman should be forced to give birth to a dead foetus or one that will die within days/weeks of being born? Yes or no?
I didn't think you'd be able to accept the reality that reasons exist for such late term abortions. But there's a reason they exist, just as you understand the reasons they are rare.
It seemed as if you were having difficulty understanding the concept so I clarified it for you.
Trump's not the mastermind of this one at all no. It would be the dark money groups, lifetime GOP senators, heritage foundation and other think tanks, that choreographed this to the best of their ability over the past number of decades. They ensured Scalia's seat remained vacant, ensured Amy Comey Barrett was rushed in without hesitation to replace Ruth Bader Ginsburg posthumously, etc. and hand delivered to Trump all of their hand picks for nomination the Supreme Court. Trump didn't do his own research on judges or anything.
Trump doesn't give a flying fig about abortion or religion but sees the American far right as a handy tool in which to promote himself.
Many of the English Tories and Brexiteers would be similar - don't really believe in anything, but see the politics of the far right and latching onto culture wars as a means of self promotion.
Proper assessment.
For better or worse its because of him their was an extra 3 supreme court "pro life" justices and this is probably the biggest win for the conservative movement in decades. Those who constantly pointed out his flaws regarding his affairs, his clear lack of interest in religion personally always missed the point, the Evangelicals knew all this but were behind him because he promised this and he has delivered his part of the deal.
It probably ensues he gets the GOP 2024 nomination now, all he has to do is to say " I overturned this" and nobody else will be able to compete. De Santis opened up Florida ? So what in comparison.
Based on a lot of conversations and activity I'm seeing IRL and in my local social media, I can safely project the southern/antiabortion states are going to begin feeling the effects of 'brain drain' over the next several quarters at least. Definitely talk around of moving to safer jurisdictions for women.
what’s the point of backing him if he won’t win. I’m not sure the republicans have anyone that could win. Their only hope is if the democrats self sabotage.
Either way, at that stage of pregnancy, there is only way for the fetus to be removed. I can't believe people are so stupid to believe that loads of women are putting themselves through the trauma of labour and giving birth to a dead baby just because they changed their mind and don't want it anymore. It doesn't happen. End of story. The only reason late term abortions take place is because the baby won't survive anyway, or maybe in a few cases, the mother. Those are medically necessary and hugely traumatic for the parents. I think I can safely say that over the history of legal abortions, the amount of women who have chosen to terminate a late stage pregnancy because they don't feel like having a kid anymore is miniscule to non existent.
Then you need to edit your post and erase your mistake
What mistake? I was trying to be helpful.
I have already layed it out for you.
Laid what out?
You popped up and defined how a medical abortion is defined, I then posted the circumstances in which it's required.
Why should I delete anything?
A medical abortion is when you take pills as opposed to a surgical abortion. You are talking about a medically necessary abortion. A medical abortion and a medically necessary abortion are not the same thing.
To those of us that grew up in the 70s there is a marked difference, to us the 70s are closer to today than the 50s were to the 70s
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