The Right religious conservatives and who knows who else have today overturned the constitutional right to abortion in the US.
Will this now embolden anti abortionists in this country to fight back?
The US is a cold place for women now.
You are wasting your time there...I asked two posters yesterday a similar question and they scarpered!!! No sign of a response.
Burden of proof falls on you to produce some actual evidence. The GOP have used CRT as a scare mongering buzz word. Invariably this results in them damaging public discourse...
Do you really expect to be taken seriously with nonsense like this? All this alpha, beta, sigma nonsense with nothing going for it.
Ah here, the bible is full of things that go against being a good human being. You using the OT for a discussion in 2022…maybe read more than one book.
Of course those who can’t keep their nose out of women’s bodies are trying to deflect by bringing up CRT.
Have a day off lads.
You claimed critical race theory and now all your examples which may or may not actually be real don't have anything to do with race.
Shame if they used real world data for maths, best avoided if we don't want to offend some. Won't be long till some get offended at the train example for encouraging public transport.
Gay marriage and the right to contraception were specifically mentioned in a concurrence by Clarence Thomas
The Handmaid's tale was not supposed to be an aspirational novel
CRT seems to be a repackaging of the idea of "institutional racism" which I was hearing about 20 years ago from a lecturer acquaintance.
Leftist fanatics want to teach it to children to turn them into leftist fanatics. Anyone who isn't a leftist fanatic doesn't want their children taught it.
ITs simple as that, and no wonder the GOP who are frankly awful can win elections at every level and pick who gets to be on the Supreme Court.
Just for a bit of clarity on the topic here's a report on abortion in Ireland from a year ago...
In relation to your point about medical issues the following quote from the above article may be relevant;
"In 2020, the vast majority of terminations – 6,455 – were carried out in early pregnancies of less than 12 weeks, according to the notification report.
Of the other abortions, 20 were carried out due to a risk to life or health under the grounds, five due to a risk to life or health in an emergency situation, and 97 due to a fatal foetal anomaly."
What's outlined there is that less than 2% of abortions carried out here were carried out on health grounds.
I'm not banging any particular drum here but these statistics are freely available and need to be referenced in these type of discussions, for clarification if nothing else.
Introducing new themes is an attempt to upgrade things from a random train going to Philadelphia or the output of orchard in Wisconsin. By including topics about areas that people may recognise as real you stand an improved chance of a better initial engagement on a topic. It is a trend in the development of learning materials. Clearly, they have some merit as textbooks if they were in use but as a state and big customer they could push the publishers to tweak it.
Wholesale bans are just one step above the bonfire!
Why don't you go back and see who brought up the topic of CRT? There's a good boy...
beside the nonsense of your reply, it looks like you got your answer above ;-)
Could and should be impeached but won't be
Clarence Thomas should also be impeached for his wife supporting the insurrection
But won't be. Biden is such a weak president
I don't think anyone would believe that left-wing political themes have been put in school textbooks because they are more recognisable as real to children than other material
The gender pay gap is an abstraction to children who have never had to negotiate a salary. (As indeed many Irish adults on predefined salary scales or working as self-employed have never had to negotiate a salary).
I can believe that many Irish parents would be in favour of this material which is sad.
Lads...when ye are referring to the coup/insurrection can ye please specify is it the one where Trump colluded with Putin or the one on Jan 6th when a bunch of unarmed morons somehow managed to force their way into what I would have thought was a very secure building?
Cool, so provide some actual proof. Should be easy, actual texts now rather than claims.
Parents in general want kids to be educated well and widely not to kowtow to their own narrow views of the world. These are real world examples but thankfully we don't suffer from this backward mentality of strictly controlling what children can explore in education. If the material is effective it should be used. That is always the metric, not how many people it offends.
@is_that_so 'Wholesale bans are just one step above the bonfire!'
The books have been banned from use in schools, not banned outright. It isn't illegal to read this politicised dross, just you can't force it on other people's children as part of the curriculum.
Read it to your child on evenings/weekends.
I wasn’t saying medical was the only reason, but we can add rape or abusive relationships to that one, a mishap with BC or protections. The list goes on, and it’s up to the woman to have control over her own body. Simple as.
Im thankful that the majority of the electorate saw that in Ireland and voted with common sense and decency.
There is a selection process in picking curriculum material. By picking one book, you are excluding another.
Besides which this stuff isn't Turgenev or the Brontes, its the flotsam and jetsam of left-wing politics, which is everywhere: women get a raw deal, blacks get a raw deal, climate change, take your vaccine etc., etc.
Parents, when it comes to mathematics, want their children to become proficient at mathemathics.
Now if I encounter five racists and I kill three of them, how many racists are left?
I think we would probably need actual evidence in relation to rape and abusive relationships as a deciding factor in women seeking abortions, without such information we're merely making assumptions. Placing those factors before birth control mishaps is an interesting choice however.
I find I don't agree with either of the entrenched sides on this debate, the middle ground on abortion is a bit of a no man's land where everyone seems incredibly vitriolic towards anything that challenges their opinions.
Need evidence?
This should be good. How would that work, exactly?
I’d agree on the last part a lot. I think the ban triggers a side that want to feel like they are saving lives, when all a bad does is export the problem. It never stops anything, it just makes women travel for procedures. They talk of saving lives when they actually put one in danger.
My stance isn’t “abortions for everyone and your granny”, it’s that women have safe access to it in their own country. The decision is up to them.
The poster above you specifically said 'insurrection' so there should be no good faith confusion on your part.
If you want to bicker about the insurrection details I refer you to the Jan 6 Hearings thread.
Collection of information in places where abortions are performed. There need be no means of identifying individual women. It would be useful to know if domestic abuse and or rape is something that is relevant to this topic.
Your gleeful demeanor is noted btw.
Why would I bother? I was just answering the question for people who are genuinely confused as to why a mathematics textbook would be banned, which does sound weird on the face of it.
Otherwise why would DeSantis or whoever even care to ban a particular mathematics textbook?
I'll ask the same question I ask everyone else who proposes stupid sh*t like this.
Of what business is it of yours? If you don't want an abortion, don't have one.
How much of your own medical history are you willing to have the privacy stripped away from and added to a big government database on you and millions of others?
Political strategy could be a reason. Check the history of book burning etc. Invariably the books that were burned were misrepresented. If you cannot produce any info about the banned books, you're trusting in a party that has actively pushed conspiracy theories and has a documented Southern Strategy.
I wasn't referring to a particular poster....the terms coups/insurrections have been used across threads oer the last few days...it's confusing as the President they are referring to has been accused of two insurrections/coups. It's shouldn't be too hard to specify which one they are referring to....and ah, I'll give that thread you mentioned a skip thanks, that at least specifies which coup/insurrection is being discussed, I have no issue with it!!
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