The Right religious conservatives and who knows who else have today overturned the constitutional right to abortion in the US.
Will this now embolden anti abortionists in this country to fight back?
The US is a cold place for women now.
It shows just how dense some conservatives are. They can effortlessly move from pro guns to pro life and can't see the big contradiction.
If they just said pro birth it'd be more accurate. They dont give a fùck what happens to it once its out, and somehow enough eejits buy into it to elect them.
No point banning AR15's because people will get them anyway. Ban abortion will stop people getting them.
The same people are making these arguments.
Those with the resources will go abroad or go to another state for one, it's the poor who will suffer the most.
The game is so rigged in favour of conservatives that they're openly using the term "unborn" instead of children. The kids at Sandy Hook had heartbeats as well but I suppose the tree of liberty needed another blood offering.
Got as far as "if you read the old testament". People who believe in fairytales can't be taken seriously on matters of importance.
If you don't want to have an abortion, why would you get one?
F*ck me, that might be the most stupid post I've ever read and there are plenty of them in here.
This must be the dumbest take on here so far. Well done.
Abortion used as birth control? Absolute bollox. That's a nasty statement to make.
Apparently some think if abortion is legal it will lead to 100% of abortions to the false god of abortions.
That is liberialism mate and its utterly failed,argueing around the edges about different governments,or fringe social elements,when both of americas political parties have been party to persueing this type socio-econmic path to diaster is pointless
https://www.epw.in/engage/article/fallacy-trickle-down-economics-wealth-creation
There is no logic to this. Why would you terminate the child you wanted?
Why is it ok to force children on people that don't want them. You can get pregnant while been cautious. Why do you care what another woman does with HER body? It has zero impact on YOUR life. I have no real opinion on abortion as it's nothing to do with me, but every woman should have the CHOICE. That's what it's all about, not right or wrong but choice. The mental anguish for a woman who has one must be awful, a decision not taken lightly I'd imagine.
Yep the parents of Boy B from the Kriegel case must be so proud of their angel.
You missed the question abour rape.
It's not to do with race, it's wealth, the clique protesting are young, middle class activist types, who tend to be mostly White.
Yes, people wouldn't change the decisions they're happy with, that's some world class logic.
Trying to force a moving truck to stop with your body is not a smart move.
Why put the truck driver in that position just because you want attention?
Charlie boy doesn't like women that aren't churning out babies for him and his creepy pals. He likes to mock and demean them by claiming that being single and educated is a bad thing. Charlie is a misogynistic twat. How's that for a conclusion?
If any woman can look at their child or children right now..who they love so much and would do anything for them. Be given the chance to go Back in time still knowing the future of the way that child would be and be loved so much :and told you can terminate that pregnancy at any time ..would they do it then !!!! I think not...pure and simple murder of a human being
But what if its not about being holier than thou? What if its about life and death. Shame is used as a weapon, to end conversations before they can even start. Open discussions are not permitted because people "feel triggered" or feel they are being "shamed". But it's a tactic designed to shut honest discussions down. So take shame and holier than thou off the table completely and what are you left with? Life and death. Abortion is death, there's no two ways about it. Its not about one group claiming to be more virtuous and holy than the other(we're all corrupt, we're all sinners)it's simply about the killing of children. It's interesting, if you read the old testament there's a lot about the worship of idols, false gods and what this usually involves is the sacrifice of children. Nothing has changed, we're still sacrificing children its just now all be done to idols with different names.
Its amusing how such a prolife country wants to force women to have babies yet is also happy to keep school schootings of children a regular occurence.
Ahh yes so rape doesn't happen and women who get pregnant from rape are never forced to give birth the that child......
Abortion is not being used as a form of birth control thats a right wing parrot line with zero evidence to back it up. But talking about birth control the same justices who repealed Roe today are considering changing the right to contraception now too.
No it wasn't, percentage approx. as below.
Yes vote in marriage ref 62 percent.
Yes vote repeal the 8th 67 percent.
You talk as if those women were forced to have sex in the first place. So much is said about "choice" and my body my choice but what about the choice to not have sex? Nobody mentions that choice yet its this choice that would stop any problems in the first place. At any given moment a woman can say, you know what there's a risk of pregnancy here so I'm gonna choose not to have sex. But how many make this choice? Abortion is being used as a form of birth control.
If you're referring to SB8, that rather novel Texas law, I would remind you that SCOTUS shot that down 8-1.
Subject to any financial concerns (i.e. time and money to get to a pro-abortion state from an anti-abortion one) or social issues (like trying to get an abortion without family knowing), there are not likely to be any barriers. In his concurrence, Kavanaugh specifically addressed this question: "[A]s I see it, some of the other abortion-related legal questions raised by today's decision are not especially difficult as a constitutional matter. For example, may a State bar a resident of that State from traveling to another State to obtain an abortion? In my view, the answer is no based on the constitutional right to interstate travel."
It is not directly. Federal authorities to conduct healthcare regulation would come from the Constitution's Interstate Commerce clause, and has been in effect an authority they have had for 90 years. SCOTUS didn't actually want to rule that way, they ruled against FDR first, then FDR threatened to pack the court if the Justices didn't give the Federal government the authority he wanted. It's technically in conflict with the Tenth Amendment, but is now just the way things are done and is the primary source of authority for most federal laws which affect non-federal persons or entities. The Tenth does still have some teeth, though, if a proposed federal law has nothing at all to do with interstate commerce, the law may not be constitutional. (The first such rollback happened in the 1990s, the court said the federal government's 'gun free school zones' act had nothing to do with commerce, and could not stand)
However, there is also nothing stopping States from enacting healthcare. It's why there is no inherent contradiction between republicans who objected to Obamacare as being an intrusion on State rights and Republicans who supported Romney in creating the Massachusetts equivalent which was the prototype. There are a couple of Federal regulations which make it difficult, but basically as most US states are the size of most countries, there's little practical reason why any state which wants to enact healthcare can't do it without relying on the Federal government.
Plessy v Ferguson was settled law for 60 years before Brown v Board of Education which overruled it, and not too many people complain about that. SCOTUS reversals happen, so far over 300 times in the near 250 years of the country. In fact, Roe is just under the average age for a case which is reversed by SCOTUS (albeit well over the median). Dredd Scott took a large war and two Constitutional Amendments to fix. Roe was not carved in stone, and SCOTUS doesn't always agree with itself, even after 140 years.
The ruling does not mean that laws protecting abortion cannot be passed at the Federal level in addition to those at State level. The Court has just recused itself from doing it, which is arguably the correct thing to do. The Dobbs case was the trigger which pulled down the house of cards by attacking 24-week limit which Roe established. That was a number arbitrarily selected by the court, which ought to have been a policy decision by the legislative or even executive branches, much like the entire protection of abortion should be.
What an absurd conclusion to draw from that tweet.
Kirk basically lays out his anger that white women aren't choosing to have more white babies for his white race issues.
I didnt realise the US has almost like 1 million abortions a year
Such pro life
I saw the video - it's no Charlottesville, it's still definitely not okay to be running over people. More than not, it looked primarily like protestors attempting to force the truck to stop, which is also not OK, and reckless. If the driver is accelerating with you on their vehicle they're past the point of caring about your safety, care about your own at that point and break off.
Just heard from a friend who lives in a small town in Illinois but happens to be in DC on a trip with some friends, ... She said the atmosphere is very tense and there are crowds gathering... and riot police on the streets! They cut dinner short and are going back to their hotel.
It's the protestors that are the violent ones though.
America is a a dystopia pretending to be uptopia.
There is just so much extremism: Gun lovers, Christian fundamentalist, BLM, Antifa.
Thankfully we live in relatively boring old Ireland.
Arkansas activated its trigger law this afternoon and it's now illegal to have an abortion after fetal heartbeak/6 weeks except for medical necessity, which I'm sure will be narrowly and arbitrarily defined. There is no exception for rape.
I have no idea why they think this is a great idea but all I can do is continue to watch all the pieces come crashing down, and hope the damage is minimal.
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