How very heroic of the pilots to aim the plane directly for an urban area. Big and all as Russia is they still managed to hit a town
The amateur / arm chair military experts on this thread all paint a picture of an ad-hoc/ dis-unified approach of the assistance that the west/nato are providing Ukraine with as well as the overall tactics against Putin/Russia. Behind the leaked /official lines that we get in the media, do the real expert military strategists of USA/UK/EU/NATO have a grand plan to end war and topple putin…..?
Except Afghanistan has a completely different landscape to Ukraine and no major power ever came out of there without their balls in a black bag partly do to this. Ukrainian forces where winning big victories in urban settings but the fighting now is in the open. As I said before the Russians have now changed the MO back to what there used to, which is level everything so there’s no urban/street fighting as we saw before. Like the afghans the Ukrainian will to resist is strong but this will come at huge cost and not soon unless something major happens.
There is a rumour there will be a big mobilisation in Russia within the next month. I cant see Russia been able to maintain control of the conquered lands and making new offensives without having more troops. The Ukraine and Russian troops at the frontlines must be worn out at this stage, they will need to be rotated out. The difference now between Russia and Ukraine, is that Russia have an endless weapons/ammo supply where as Ukraine has a limited amount, but Russia has few troops where Ukraine has an endless amout of troops.
Russia are short on trained pilots too. Although for the domestic passenger travel (non military) probably the chinese airlines would start flying domestic routes for them
Yup that was always the risk, think Zelensky wants to slow down the Russians as much as possible but that tactic comes with a sacrifice
Probably if the gas was cut off to Germany then Scholtz would change his mind
I'd be curious to know how many 'foreign' or non western parts are in a Boeing or Airbus, i'm genuinely curious.
But based on the Russian Sukhoi Superjet 100 passenger jet...... it has partly french made engines.
I'd say quite a few advancements in Russia have come from western tech/expertise/knowledge/parts etc...
Perhaps, but these are fundamentally Russian aircraft so may not be as dependent on foreign parts as a Boeing or an Airbus.
And Russian aircraft already have a solid tradition of crashing, about 1 incident every 2 - 3 years for this type (scroll down to Accidents)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilyushin_Il-76
Can you give a source for this? And one that verifies the story and the connection of the two pictures?
Thank you.
Wasn’t it predicted that russian planes were going to start falling out of the sky a few weeks ago ? Looks like sanctions are working
retreating may no longer be an option if they wait much longer
Yep a little less conversation a little more action.
The Sandbagger in me was hoping all this talk talk talk and delays was just a smokescreen and the weapons were already in Ukraine, but that doesn't seem to be the case :(
Will Scholtz approve it though?
And if he does, will he make up some crap excuse that they will be delivered months from now.
German arms industry have been quite willing and fast to offer heavy weapons only to be blocked by Scholtz. Never count a German supplied heavy weapon until it's in Ukrainian hands in Ukraine.
A interesting program on PBS right now on Putin and Russia. Not to mention a certain US orange tanned ex President.
I want to donate money that goes towards weapons for Ukraine.
Yes they can !!! Unbelievable. For what they do, they are the best, the very best in mass produced vehicles. I saw one that had driven over a remote controlled mine, the man ( yes it was a man) hit the trigger a fraction of a second too soon, and the mine blew under the front bumper, and not under the engine as would normally be the plan for most destruction ( and death / injury) none the less, the force was so severe, it bent the chassis upwards leaving a kink in the roof, while wrapping the bonnet upwards and bending it back over the roof. It drove all the way home, several miles across the desert. But most important, none of the passengers or driver were hurt. Talk about not going until your time is up.....😎
Bad news for Putnut
No, don’t you understand? Nobody is excited about Russia advancing, they just want everyone to have the benefit of their superior minds and to really understand what’s going on… either that or they are contrarians looking for attention.
Just some perspective for those who are excited that Russia is about to take Sievierodonetsk.
This a news story from April 18th (over 2 months ago). Remember the grand Russian offensive - the unstoppable force that was going to crush Ukraine in just a few days? It's not progressing quite as fast as planned. I don't think anyone should believe that Russia planned the war to go on for years.
We will see
I sure hope so,lets see how much impact HIMARS can make in Ukraine
I hope your right
Those toyota pick ups can take a lot of punishment!
In Afghanistan, they were the weapon of choice between all the warring parties. Machine guns mounted on Toyota pick ups were lethal....they even mounted twin barrel anti-aircraft cannon on them. Ideal hit and run vehicles, and well suited to the Afghan terrain.
Lots of water ( and many other things ) under the bridge since it kicked of 24 Feb...Putins master 3 day master plan to take over, and just a Russian nightmare. Now Russian dreams consist of taking two areas, and they are experiencing very heavy going to do this. And that's nothing to what it will take to hold it. No, its not quite the same. The sanctions are of course working away in the background, and will continue to eat away at the Russian economy.
This pilot is flying so low
This pilot hit the ground.
Today, on June 24, in one of the directions, a serviceman of the air defense unit of the 79th separate assault brigade of the DShV of the Armed Forces of Ukraine shot down a Russian Su-25 "Grach" attack aircraft
I was in Afghanistan rogber, and saw first hand what sandal clad tribesmen did to the Russian military, and now you have an equally motivated, but far better armed Ukrainian military fighting the same enemy. And no, I'm not expecting a quick end to this conflict, but I'm convinced that Ukraine will win in the end. Their very survival as a nation depends on it. The best Russian troops can hope for is to get out alive, and never return to the battlefield. Putin is facing mega recruitment problems, and returning military survivors will not encourage anyone they know to enlist. He will have the upper hand in some places now due to long range bombing, but once thats countered, you will see a big change.
I think this is the same one crashing
I think all Banana is saying is "having no intention" of doing something is no guarantee of being able to do it and anyone who thinks Ukraine is militarily capable of getting Russia off all its land in the foreseeable future is living in a fantasy world. Unfortunately that seems to include 80 percent of posters here who interpret every setback for Ukraine as some sort of positive and keep insisting the big counteroffensive to defeat Russia is just around the corner. It would be nice if it was true, but it's about as objective as the "4D chess" Trump supporters used to talk about every time something went wrong: "don't worry, it's all part of the plan". Except it's not.
In addition to my previous post, I did say a few weeks ago that Russia is seriously short of Jet pilots. This proves it. He even had to use Sat Nav to find his way around as he could not work the onboard systems. !!!
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