The Right religious conservatives and who knows who else have today overturned the constitutional right to abortion in the US.
Will this now embolden anti abortionists in this country to fight back?
The US is a cold place for women now.
It shows given the puerile understanding
oh grow up ffs
thats not what the comparison was at all. if by the original poster's logic (cant remember username at this stage) was that abortion is murder, then surely miscarriage also is, or at least involuntary manslaughter?
Actually I just have an interest in WW2 documentaries.
Oh jebus, not this again.
Firstly repealing the 8th did not introduce abortion.
Secondly, if you think people were celebrating and dancing in the street because they could now "murder innocent children" you obviously did not have any real understanding of what was actually happening and the significance of it went right over your head.
Looks like you still don't.
You would think the fact that at least two of Donald Trump’s nominees lied under oath about their views on Roe in order to secure confirmation would have some consequences...but in the US I doubt it!
Basket case of a country.
In Florida they banned maths books that contained Critical Race Theory, which is illegal in schools.
To avoid the ban, just print maths books that contains maths instead of ideological messages
The Supreme Court has gutted voting rights and allowed the states to become so gerrymandered that it guarantees the abortions will be banned in about half the states.
Also, the 'relax' absolutely hilarious given what has happened over the last few years. 'Relax' is basically what Bernie said when Hillary brought up the supreme court being at risk in 2016 when he was doing everything to undermine her. 'Relax' is what people said when Trump was elected. 'Relax' is what people said when the GOP were packing the court and pointing to the judges were swearing under oath that Roe v Wade is settled law. Now Republicans are calling for same-sex marriage and other gay rights to be returned to the States to decide and for a federal ban on abortion and you're throwing out 'relax' again...
That's going to work out well
Laughable indeed!!! Florida Republicans are banning CRT including texts that incorporate the theory into school books and Teaching Gender Ideology to kids....the Democrats are losing elections at a fairly rapid rate across the US over the last 18 months for similar reasons.
Florida is the ultimate swing state in US elections, the fact that the current Governor is on course for a unprecedented win this coming November should be putting the chills into the Democrat Party.
I've even seen Irish media describe him as an ethno nationalist, only a matter of time before the usual gang of posters on here start doing the same!!!
Absolute self serving GOP lies.
It is a federal system. You simply couldn't run a continent size country of 300 million the way you run a small country of 5 million people.
In the EU, there are also votes in which Ireland's 5 million population has the same weight as 80 million in Germany.
It's absurd to compare Dublin and Leitrim to Florida and Vermont.
Yes society really is crumbling. What is happening in the US will return some sanity
Laughable - in Florida Republicans are banning maths books and telling people what they can and cant say about their own lives.
It is an absolute myth that the Republicans despise big government, they just despise big government when it doesn't align to their ideology (the exact same as the Democrats)
You absolutely do need big government, it is what Fascists/Communists/Socialists all have in common....first you need soft control over the population thru media, corporations, institutions and academia and perhaps an army of quasi uniformed violent thugs on the streets to enforce it all...it's why in Italy they have a saying, "there are two kinds of fascists, fascists and anti fascists!!", they'd know!
are there any?
and if/when a state bans abortion, how difficult is it for a woman to travel over to another state to get an abortion? California will probably sell Abortion week-ends all inclusive up until 9 months
That will be such a comfort to everyone who resides in a state that just banned abortion.
Abortion has not been banned in the US, they are only giving back to the states the democratic right to have their own abortion law as opposite to having a federal law.
it's the same as we already have in Europe, relax
Centre parties aren’t fascists. Only right wing militaristic ultra nationalist loons like the GOP qualify. You don’t need big govt you need laws and a militarized police and an oligarchy. G. O. P. Vermin.
The US system isn't a fair referendum, it is now being put back to states governments where many are so ridiculously gerrymandered that it is nearly impossible for those who would be pro-choice to win enough seats to stop abortion bans.
When there is corrupt, minority rule people throughout history haven't liked it. The people of Dublin and Cork would not be happy if every county had 2 votes as a key part of legislating so that the tiny populations of Leitrim and Roscommon had the same vote with a tiny fraction of the population. Out of all the supreme court justices who came to this decision only 1 was chosen by a president who won the popular vote. The US system is broken, that is why people are frustrated.
"Will this now embolden anti abortionists in this country for fight back?
I really hope so. The ugliest and most terrifying scene I've ever witnessed took place down at dublin castle the day abortion was made legal in this country. People literally dancing with delight at the prospect of the murder of innocent children. The people leading this country at the time were there, up on a stage celebrating.........The level of wickedness and evil at work in the hearts of those who would celebrate murder is beyond comprehension. But now it seems the pendulum has swung back in favor of goodness and away from what is evil and I hope that people in this country who see the real face of abortion and what it actually is, will stand up for what is just and right.
You are the only person I have ever come across who views miscarriages as a selective action.
yes, yes i do. i made a very logical comparison. care to refute my point or do you just want to deflect?
yes i do, i made a very logical comparison using another poster's views on abortion as murder. feel free to explain how i was incorrect if you want
If fascism ever manifests itself in the US ( and I don't believe it ever will, the US will break up sooner) it will be through the Democrat Party, the party that has a hold over Political Institutions, Academia and the School System...it will not be thru the Republican party voters, the vast majority of whom despise big government....they are the actual anti fascists.
(I am aware of the tiny Neo Nazi far right fascists who nobody takes seriously)
Do you even know what a Miscarriage is?
Insanity, hyperbolic, delusional, narcissism.
Whatever he has going on it was a problem for him long before this.
Truth.
The US doesn't have federal referenda. It would be like regarding Cork and Mayo as States under the federal government in Dublin. They can have their own referenda. There is the option for an Article V convention, but it's never been done, and it's the constitution's own 'nuclear option' for resolving gridlock issues. Enough Republican states would ensure we neither get an Equal Rights amendment nor an Abortion amendment ratified.
Your point is true, however on balance, those demographics lean Democrat historically. They also tend to be poorer, which makes them a perfect target for disenfranchisement efforts.
Which is not a reason for carte blanche support for the Democrats. They suck and I'm beyond tired of their ineptitude and willful disregard for a whole range of issues, but they're better than the Republicans. America in a nutshell.
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Is there a referendum scheduled for the US? I would welcome one on the topic to settle it. Can't imagine Republicans would want it, they tend not to do well with the popular vote.
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