The Right religious conservatives and who knows who else have today overturned the constitutional right to abortion in the US.
Will this now embolden anti abortionists in this country to fight back?
The US is a cold place for women now.
What's funny is that the people you're trying to explain this to themselves voted for abortion (Overheal excepted since s/he is a Yank?) in a referendum.
But if US states have to go through the referendum process its Taliban Mark II.
Basically they only want to see referendums where they think it'll return the "correct" result.
Also the constant desire to change political systems. Get four more justices, change FPTP to PR, dump the electoral college.
They would probably cheer the return of Louis IV the Great, the Sun King, as absolute ruler of France if they thought it would lead to the policies they wanted being adopted.
This is the tweet.
I understand your point regarding these issues, but the underlying assumption regarding Democrats' position on these issues is that they are designed to prevent racial minorities from voting.
However, polls consistently show African American and Hispanic voters are more conservative on abortion than white voters, and substantially more conservative than Democrats.
This could be the start of the final culture war battle, brewing since Reagan started to cultivate the religious far right.
Apparently even the mango Mussolini called this a bad decision, as the suburban woman voter won't vote for any Republican supporting this retrograde step. Could finish the repugs off in suburbia, though their laughable electroral system will keep the system imbalanced.
You clearly don’t understand logic.
Yes one could interpret that as a constitutional right to abortion, even if abortion is not what was in mind when it was written. The argument for is no stronger than the argument against, however.
The great error here imo was to declare a constitutional right to abortion on highly dubious grounds and deem the issue closed. The only reason it ended up in front of the Supreme Court was because the pro-choice movement was not making satisfactory progress going state-by-state or through Congress, so they sought to bypass these institutions of the democratic process.
For example, Michigan voters decided by 61% to 39% not to legalise abortion in November 1972. Roe v Wade happened a few weeks later and invalidated the result of the referendum.
Even though it would've taken time, the pro-choice movement would've been better off trying to convince people on the merits of their arguments and get them to support their position, instead of getting the Supreme Court to decide it in one go and effectively circumvent public opinion and deem the issue closed.
Now US voters can decide their own laws, and enact ones representative of their will, as opposed to something imposed by the court.
deviancy? get over yourself
well according to your logic theyre both 'killing' so whats the difference?
Why is it offensive? Can you elaborate, please?
It is extremely offensive to many to claim abortion and miscarriage are pretty similar. Are you sure you want to stand over that opinion?
no youre just trying to claim false equivalency to suit your own means when you full well know theyre pretty similar
Similar enough that a woman experiencing a miscarriage will be denied access to certain procedures to save her life if abortions are outright banned.
Now you're getting it! But both the human baby, and human adult, are also human persons, where the human fetus is not.
Communism tends to be more direct, in through the back of the head.
Maybe that makes more of an impact on wider society.
Social democratic tradition in Europe offers a better path. Certainly the left damaged itself over the years in not being resolutely against countries like the Soviet Union and Communist China.off topic.
from what i can gather this has taken away any constitutional rights and now it is completely up to individual states. i also gather that there is no hope in hell anything would be reversed or an improved bill could be proposed as the conservative/right/anti-choice/religious/whatever you want to call them will simply do anything and everything to stop such things happening.
American society as a whole has a low value on life and society. Both parties just differ on the time scale.
Correct, it counts against Liberalism, ????, somehow.
Just like a human baby and a human adult are human but not one and the same.
Do share the heavy price they'll pay. They'll take the House handily.
if you stub your toe under communisim, thats communisms fault but if you get murdered in a capitalist society, somehow that doesnt count against capitalism..
A human fetus, and a human person, are both human, but not one and the same thing.
You are tying yourself up in knots now equating miscarriage and abortion. Everyone understands abortion is killing a human. Some will just never admit that they know this.
I think the man is a hardline nutjob but he has a job for life!
America has led the world the last 40 years becoming more like Sodom and Gomorrah. Maybe America still has a conscience and wants to reconnect back to God. Time will tell though...
Given that Communism has been the most murderous ideology in history, it was an easy slur to use.
Free market capitalism leaves alot to be desired, putting it mildly.
Sure, but while it's there a law can be enacted. As the second part of my post indicates almost all of the Dail supports the law. Our SC would either decline or just bounce it back to the Dail because they really don't like to meddle in legislative areas unless there a Constitutional issue, which there isn't here.
That's a crisis.
You dont think the socio-econmic policies persued by america for last 40 or so years,have lead to the problems it has today....your a gas bloke😂
Thomas seems to say what he likes and is an originalist, He also believes in natural law so you can see why he'd target other stuff. It's hard to know on same sex marriage as he seems more balanced on that.
He's very much on his own in this new run so far, but obviously encouraging people to bring a case he can get his teeth into.
Saw this today, a less than ringing endorsement.
According to a Gallup poll taken this month, only 25% of US adults say they have “a great deal” or “quite a lot” of confidence in the supreme court. That is the lowest reading in Gallup’s nearly 50-year history of polling public perception of the court.
The 13th amendment abolished slavery.*
*"except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted"
There is nothing in the constitution about abortion.
The equal protection clause and protection from unreasonable search and self incrimination etc all work in concert to uphold the medical privacy to an abortion.
On the latter part , why is it not , or is it in their constitution as regards the right to healthcare ?
Could this not be reversed with a ruling about equal access of all citizens to said healthcare ?
I heard a law professor on the news talking about FDA access to medical abortions and maybe that that was one area that individual states cannot restrict .
The problem with that view, is that the same political movement that has pushed this case, are the same ones who have worked diligently to entrench their minority rule. Gerrymandering, voter disenfranchisement, voter id laws. All part of a playbook designed to protect and preserve Republican control, regardless of political demographics.
How can there be a honest debate and vote on an issue, when one side has rigged the game? The same Justices that handed out these verdicts are the ones who support Citizens United, who say they can't rule against gerrymandering, who will quite possibly vote to overturn large parts of the Civil Rights Act. There's no limit to what lengths they will go to retain power. As Jan 6th and the efforts of Ginni Thomas has shown.
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