The Right religious conservatives and who knows who else have today overturned the constitutional right to abortion in the US.
Will this now embolden anti abortionists in this country to fight back?
The US is a cold place for women now.
It is very simple. Just not by the definition of "simple" that you intended.
Shocking decision setting back the US 50 years... Republicans will pay a heavy price in the mid terms for this.
Its a consequence of a decades long plan to imbalance the Supreme Court Justice's to the right, Trump (that's the guy who paid off two women he was having extra marital affairs with hush money in the run up to the 2016 election) has stuffed with SCOTUS with 3.... yes THREE!!!! appointments (all right leaning Conservatives)...>>> this is the result.
The Democrats should have on day one of Biden's term expanded the Justices by at least 2 to balance out the panel which had already gone too far to the right.
Still not seeing how this connects to Liberalism?
Yes.. this only yesterday . Pack of hypocrites .
Wrong to kill the unborn ....you can shoot small children though !
Good decision to overturn. As we saw in Ireland, best for abortion to be decided by legislatures/referenda instead of through constitution and judges. The original decision was a mistake which led to today's outcome.
It never made sense in a country as culturally diverse as America that New York and North Dakota would be forced to have the same abortion law, particularly when there's nothing in the constitution about it and Congress couldn't present a majority for a constitutional amendment or legislation one way or the other.
For once the US does something that can ultimately tone down the culture war. Very reasonable to let voters in their own states have the laws that reflect the will of the people living in those states.
Yes, agree ... the Taliban are more honest about their wish to control women.
How did I "intend" it
so rights should be arbitrary depending on which part of the country you live in?
what if some southern states decided they want slavery back?
just turn a blind eye to those enslaved because that state "voted" for it?
tyranny of the majority
That statement is completely off the rails 🤪
Very true . Wonder if there is anything there in the fact that they lied to the Senate committees that can be used to unseat them ?
Are these hearings taken under oath ? Perjury ?
That's the logic that led to this result in the US.
If you can't respect people all you'll ever achieve is more and more antagonistic results.
so someone who has a miscarriage has killed their child accidently? join the real world please
technically youre right, it would be much better if the right to this healthcare would part of their constitution. what is now going to happen however is that access is going to be severely restricted since it will be decided at state level
You meant "simple" as in easy. I meant "simple" as in stupid
I understand emotions are high, but are we really comparing like for like here?
Discussion goes nowhere when we talk like this.
Back in the late 70s
How "like for like" would you like, for like?
They don't have the beheadings or the suicide bombing campaigns but they do have many of the same ideas about women and LGBTQ+ rights.
Why ? It's TRUE. 😉
No emotion . Tongue in cheek. And utterly irrestible !
It's not actually. It's only in our Constitution that it must be regulated by law. That was the amendment we voted on. Theoretically, the Dail could set whatever law it liked.
In practice, the 8th was a counterpoint that restrained other rights in the constitution. Unamended it's likely that the SC would find that the right exists elsewhere (privacy, bodily autonomy, etc) but that hasn't been tested.
Then again it's hard to say what way out SC could go, after all it did uphold some child's playground antics ( one boy slapped another boy on the bare arse, with no sexual intent) as sexual assault resulting in a 14 year old boy being a sex offender.
The 13th amendment abolished slavery. There is nothing in the constitution about abortion.
If the constitution does not address an issue and Congress can not muster the required numbers to pass legislation, then it is an issue for each state to address.
On an issue like abortion, which is handled through parliaments in pretty much all of the Western world, and whose laws can differ considerably from place to place, allowing the states to address the issue is the best option.
The problem with that view, is that the same political movement that has pushed this case, are the same ones who have worked diligently to entrench their minority rule. Gerrymandering, voter disenfranchisement, voter id laws. All part of a playbook designed to protect and preserve Republican control, regardless of political demographics.
How can there be a honest debate and vote on an issue, when one side has rigged the game? The same Justices that handed out these verdicts are the ones who support Citizens United, who say they can't rule against gerrymandering, who will quite possibly vote to overturn large parts of the Civil Rights Act. There's no limit to what lengths they will go to retain power. As Jan 6th and the efforts of Ginni Thomas has shown.
On the latter part , why is it not , or is it in their constitution as regards the right to healthcare ?
Could this not be reversed with a ruling about equal access of all citizens to said healthcare ?
I heard a law professor on the news talking about FDA access to medical abortions and maybe that that was one area that individual states cannot restrict .
The 13th amendment abolished slavery.*
*"except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted"
There is nothing in the constitution about abortion.
The equal protection clause and protection from unreasonable search and self incrimination etc all work in concert to uphold the medical privacy to an abortion.
Thomas seems to say what he likes and is an originalist, He also believes in natural law so you can see why he'd target other stuff. It's hard to know on same sex marriage as he seems more balanced on that.
He's very much on his own in this new run so far, but obviously encouraging people to bring a case he can get his teeth into.
Saw this today, a less than ringing endorsement.
According to a Gallup poll taken this month, only 25% of US adults say they have “a great deal” or “quite a lot” of confidence in the supreme court. That is the lowest reading in Gallup’s nearly 50-year history of polling public perception of the court.
You dont think the socio-econmic policies persued by america for last 40 or so years,have lead to the problems it has today....your a gas bloke😂
That's a crisis.
Sure, but while it's there a law can be enacted. As the second part of my post indicates almost all of the Dail supports the law. Our SC would either decline or just bounce it back to the Dail because they really don't like to meddle in legislative areas unless there a Constitutional issue, which there isn't here.
Given that Communism has been the most murderous ideology in history, it was an easy slur to use.
Free market capitalism leaves alot to be desired, putting it mildly.
America has led the world the last 40 years becoming more like Sodom and Gomorrah. Maybe America still has a conscience and wants to reconnect back to God. Time will tell though...
I think the man is a hardline nutjob but he has a job for life!
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