The Right religious conservatives and who knows who else have today overturned the constitutional right to abortion in the US.
Will this now embolden anti abortionists in this country to fight back?
The US is a cold place for women now.
I wonder if some day there will a Secession by the Blue States. Red America and Blue America. Red America you are ruled by the hard Right Fundie Christians, Blue America you are run by the Liberals and are FREEEEE.
But who will pay for the Red State Badlands survival?
How are you regarding this as a failure of Liberalism, specifically, and not the US?
what is "safe" about 15 year old teenagers being allowed to purchase assault rifles ??
do you realise that the average age of school shooters, since tracking began, is 18 years of age ??
if you think making guns illegal for teenagers to purchase would result in it being easier for teenagers to get them, then your warped.
Always makes me snigger people screaming commie at me,given i actually own income producing assets😅
It's in our Constitution and there is no way any government will bring that back to the people, especially as there were 66% in support of doing away with the 8th. The drive to add the 8th was CJ and the Catholic Church, that influence is long gone.
Most of the Dail support the availability of it anyway as do the vast majority of people so there is no chance of repeal. Much as you seem to desire it, we are not a dysfunctional democracy with hardened positions on moral issues like the US. Like the majority of European countries we favour having such a service available to women.
under his eye....
Dear God no, please, not this again 😂
It’s a work of fiction, based upon the writers own political views. It is not based upon reality.
Well yeah we have seen the disaster that is capitalism, but if you dare say anything, people call you a filthy commie....
Looks to me,they had a majority to push through it,but choose not to tbh
Its a failed idology,that drives wealth inequality and leaves too many behind.....america has 40million living in trailer parks,millions more homeless,an socio-political idology that causes this,can/should only be classed as a failure
They are targeting contraception, gay marriage and privacy next. They literally said it in the ruling against Roe v Wade. Its hilarious you can still say this kind of thing with a straight face.
Reminds of the people saying people over reacted to Trump being elected, and yet those of us who said this kind of **** would happen, were proven right, every single damn time.
No hyperbole here at all, but a whole lot of denial from people, who have chosen to ignore the bloody obvious in front of them, lest there world view falls apart.
They can hold a different view, but the problem is when their "line" begins to impede or restrict someone elses' rights - then they're crossing a line.
The right to choose alluded to in my comment is just that. The right to choose whether or not to continue a pregnancy.
If bodily autonomy matters and many have made their opinion regarding that topic over the past 18 months. It must also follow that that same autonomy extends from refusing a vaccine through to refusing to endure a pregnancy. The right to choose matters, that right is an affirmation of the right to bodily autonomy that many on the US right trumpeted in opposition to vaccine mandates. It is not a conditional right, not based upon ones gender, or fertility.
Also very pertinent in this (SCOTUS) discussion is the candour displayed by the 3 Trump appointees. All said Roe was settled, all confirmed primacy of Stare Decisis, all assented to revoking the ruling. In the highest court of the land, a lifetime appointment, the examination of candidates by the senate is the only way to ascertain an appointees views. I find it quite interesting that 3 appointees have recanted there stated positions on Roe in an effort to disavow it. Either they lied at their affirmation hearings, or some new legal theory has arisen that revokes stare decisis, the doctrine of unenumerated rights and basic common sense. If it's the latter? I've yet to see it borne out in the judgement either draft or final.
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Agree .
Their constitution as it applies today needs to be overhauled and a new constitution voted on by modern Americans . Crazy that this has been allowed to run on in a country that prides itself on its forward thinking and success .
Gun control, Abortion rights , Equality everything hinges on a constitution from 1700s written for a different society , so protected its akin to religious zeal that noone can challenge it .
How can a modern society function based on a constitution that dates back to witch burnings ?
Crazy and very sad for all over there .
Even if some citizens now agree with this right wing fundamentalist Supreme Court , who knows where this will end for them?
Gilead , indeed .
Effectively yes. Trump picked 3 of the Justices who served the decision, incl. one who was rushed in in the middle of a general election. Trump vowed, among other things, to pick only candidates who would overturn Roe.
Ooof. See it's this type of view on abortion that makes me uneasy.
Again, this was considered in the ultimate calculus of that session of Congress:
They didn't just 'ignore abortion' as some separate issue. Republicans were actively fighting them for expanding restrictions on abortion IN the healthcare bill.
I hope you can stop pretending that.
It's a silly hyperbolic position. At least you recognise you are pretending though.
It's almost like their constitution specfically states that the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed but makes zero mention of abortion, weird eh?
In other comparison news:
Way too many people I the world, abortion should be widely available especially in Africa, Asia and anywhere overpopulation is causing a drain on resources
That's cool but can you not see how someone else may have a different view and draw their line?
republicans are pro-birth.
as soon as the baby is born, they'll throw you some bootstraps and tell you to get fu*ked
if they really cared about children, they wouldnt be trying to defund public education, they'd pass legislation to help families and single-parents with child rearing costs etc.
but they're not interested in that.
Liberals after Trump attempted to subvert democracy = "Trump must burn"
Liberals after Roe v Wade democratically decided = "Democracy must burn"
The position of the other side must be respected.
No it does not.
I will never, ever have even the tiniest modicum of respect for what is an anti-woman position that results in women being denied automony over their own bodies and basic health care - or by extension, anyone who holds the view that a woman is of lesser importance than a foetus.
I draw a line there.
Child is probably the incorrect nomenclature, can we say human?
We will get to the point, as in we will witness that point in history.
But you knew that.
We may also get to a point where the King of Saudi is standing up in the UN chastising the US for their human rights abuses.
Ah the human race, can't be accused of being boring anyway.
If anyone believed it was a child pregnant women would get child support. And if Republicans cared about the unborn then they wouldn't have the worst stats for maternity deaths.
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Can we finally stop pretending that the Western conservatives end game is basically the same as the Taliban, albeit a Christian branded version of fascism?
Hopefully we'll see our recent changes in abortion law reversed soon, outright ban across the board ideally.
Not seeing why this ruling makes such an outcome a scintilla more likely
Never a truer word spoken in advance of today's ruling.....
Neal Katyal
@neal_katyal
Gonna be very weird if Supreme Court ends a constitutional right to obtain an abortion next week, saying it should be left to the States to decide, right after it just imposed a constitutional right to concealed carry of firearms, saying it cannot be left to the States to decide
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