The Right religious conservatives and who knows who else have today overturned the constitutional right to abortion in the US.
Will this now embolden anti abortionists in this country to fight back?
The US is a cold place for women now.
trump put 3 conservative justices on the court and swung it conservative.
tbf, McConnell is the mastermind here. He recognised that the GOP had to play the long game and get as many federal judges and supreme court justices in place as possible.
this will allow them to pass all sorts of regressive laws and reinterpret existing laws to fit their backwards worldview.
under his eye....
I totally understand that the US is a federal union and this will apply on a state by state basis, but the basic point is that they are removing rights which have been in place for the last 50 years (which is a bizarre direction of travel).
I've no dog in the fight when it comes to abortion, personally I don't like the idea of killing an unborn child however I ain't going to tell someone else how to live, hence I abstained from voting here.
However I just want to ask what you mean by right to choose? Because yes that applies here and in a lot of other countries but not in the US. (Their fucked up systems is another discussion).
Tide has gone out on liberialism,its teetering on collaspe due to the diaster it has caused worldwide
He made sure to appoint judges to the supreme court that would rule on it the way he wanted
Minority rule....
Abortion rights,dont fall under healthcare?🤔
The bloke had a mandate,clear majority to undertake massive reform,and achived nowhere near enough to justify the esteem he is held in
Was this ruling started by Trump as President?
Ah now. Obama and Clinton were against gay marriage. It's hardly unique to trump.
The do nothing President.
Who you wish to try attract is your own business, as is a woman's Right to abortion and freedom to choose.
It’s killing a human, there is no doubt about that so consideration is irrelevant. I didn’t say murder as that is a very different definition to killing which is just ending life.
so yes, regardless of the decision, a groups rights are removed.
Yes, giving the right to life back to the unborn is truly sickening - I also hope someday a feminist will be attracted to me if I keep churning out these statements.
The 8th amendment made sure that this was dealt with properly here, ensuring that the legislation had consent of the people.
Without it, I'd be fairly certain our SC would have had its own Roe v Wade in the early 90's.
It took every political chip they had that year to pass the Affordable Care Act. If you'll recall more recently last year how long basic infrastructure package spending debate dragged on for, that things can take a long time to pass if they pass at all, and it consumes obscene amounts of congressional bandwidth. They decided the healthcare was the more important hill to die on.
The American people voted for Trump knowing full well the consequences for the courts in to the future. This outcome is the democratic one, like it or not.
Seeing how divided the US is now, were this were to happen and Trump re-elected in 2024, I could see liberal states consider seceding from the union.
No, I never said that. If it was banned like the person that I was replying to stated that it was, it would be banned on a federal level, which it has not been. They weren't speaking about what happens in individuals states, which you well know.
I think the majority in the western world would not consider abortion killing hence why most countries have some abortion rights. Why should i respect someone removing rights from women?
That's very unlike an Irish TV journo to point out the failings of Mr Obama
We had a vote remember? Will of the people and all that.
Pity it's so much harder for the people of the states to change their constitution as the majority of Americans are pro choice according to recent polls.
As much as I'm not a fan of the decision, it does make sense in that the justices are abiding by the Constitution and saying it's not explicit.
What I don't get is why democrats when theyve had the chance and they had a majority try to get this as an actual constitutional amendment or a federal law.
Or the general US system really of constitution is set on stone and can't change. Need referendums like here really.
Point taken..
He should have. Feels like the old line of all that is required for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing. And many a democrat has voiced support for Roe vs Wade and done nothing.
While not a country per se it was banned in parts of the Roman Empire after it had been legal and the norm. I think that might happened twice in fact - in the 1st century AD and again in the fifth century AD.
The descendants of the Visigothic conquerors of Spain banned it after the Roman presence was totally gone, there's a passage in Gibbon I think.
In Sweden in the 11th century it was a pagan practice that was abandoned after mass conversion to Christianity.
These are long-ago examples obviously. No idea of recent examples, maybe South America or parts of Africa?
However ask yourself would the likes of South Carolina and Missouri have voted for it in the first place in 1973?
explain how this is in any way good news
True, Trump was the biggest leftist is the USA before he ran, and now he likes to pretend he's come country singing bull riding holy man.
Why not sort it then,and avoid like of this happening
Abortion rights are unique. Every abortion involves killing a human. Prolife and Prochoice positions both involve choosing one groups rights over another groups rights. So, both sides involve taking away rights. That’s why regardless of anyones position, the position of the other side must be respected.
Absolutely delighted, cracking little decision! Hopefully we'll see our recent changes in abortion law reversed soon, outright ban across the board ideally. Nice to see some good news every once in a while.
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