The Right religious conservatives and who knows who else have today overturned the constitutional right to abortion in the US.
Will this now embolden anti abortionists in this country to fight back?
The US is a cold place for women now.
i think it was pretty clear that the original post was referring to people taking their own lives due to not having access to an abortion
grow up with the murder bullshit
I guess time will tell. Wont have ro wait long to judge if this is lie as state legislation will pass very soon in a number of states. I think can be given that you wont get many unbiased facts on the websites with either words prolife or prochoice in their website names
I assume you didn’t live in Ireland until abortion was legalised.
It is the Supreme Court that has taken the right away after granting it in the first place. Maybe this judgement demonstrates the inadequacy of grounding such a right in a debatable interpretation of the Constitution.
People are hoping for the worst. . Its a complex issue so I would say wait and see what happens.
When the court was expanded to 9 justices iirc it was to correspond to 9 circuit courts of appeal.
There are now 13 such courts of appeal - 11 typical among a share of states, 1 federal circuit and 1 DC circuit. The prejudice of a single justice can disfavor the adjudicative needs of one court of appeals over the other, when the SCOTUS has finite resources to consider cases. Kavanaugh for example, is assigned to the 8th and 6th circuit, his attention is divided between the two, and those aren't tiny circuits. The 8th is Arkansas, Iowa, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, North Dakota, South Dakota; the 6th is Kentucky, Michigan, Ohio, Tennessee. 11 of 50 states, for 1 of 9 justices. Alito is doubled up as well, on the 3rd and 5th circuit he filters appeals from Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas, Delaware, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and the US Virgin Islands. And Roberts Tripled himself up, on the DC and Federal circuits as well as Maryland, North Carolina, South Carolina, West Virginia, Virginia. SCOTUS Backlog can be tracked objectively, and remedied with expanding the bench.
Have many countries banned abortion after it being legal for many years? It seems an extraordinary turn of events, highly irregular.
This is not some temporary measure where a technical loophole in the law has emerged and which the SC felt they had no choice but to act. Instead, they have decided in their judgement to make it permanently illegal for women to have abortions and for this to be the settled constitutional position of the US.
So vulnerable minorities only have rights if the majority agree?
Nope, that's not democracy that's tyrrany.
The supreme court is just government appointees. Im not sure certain rights to go to a popular vote what if more americans became evangelical and stared removing gay rights based on religious reasons?
Poland. Religious fundamentalist assholes at work there, too.
Biden to speak momentarily..
For all the good waffle will do, let's see how it plays out johnny
I can't see an interpretation of this ruling that supports any of that.
It has not banned abortion but has given powers to the states to make their own laws hasn't it?
Don't even start with me.
I was 13 years old when the 8th Amendment was passed and 50 years old when it was repealed.
I lived my whole reproductive life under the threat of not having automony over my own body in this country.
So you and anyone who supports this can go and ..... I'll let you fill in the blanks.
they have decided in their judgement to make it permanently illegal for women to have abortions
The ignorance. This isn't what happened. You're getting mad about something you don't even understand.
If a person would take their own life as a result of Roe v Wade being repealed, then they clearly have severe mental duress to begin with
... whether or not that is the case, what is your point here? Suicide is not, strictly speaking, rational to begin with. I'm not here to challenge their rationale, I'm pointing out that women ARE going to experience duress as a result of this outcome, and I PRAY they won't do something so dark. I might also feel under duress if I lived in a town, in county, in a state, or a nation where I was treated as a lesser citizen than that of another sex to me. Wake up on Friday and have my rights revoked by catholics in robes and have my neighbors, my representatives in government, all cheering for it.
So are you saying no states have legislation ready to go that wont reduce the rights for women in a fair number of states? How out of loop are you? Its as strange as republican senators being coy about welcoming the leaked verdict a few months ago. Maybe they realise abortion is not as unpopular as they thought it eas.
Pray? Relilgion is what's caused this mess. "Thoughts and prayers" is what is regarded in that country as an adequate response to gun massacres ffs...
Madness how quick the USA is regressing.
Biden just said "Roe is on the Ballot" meaning the Democrats aren't gonna do ****.
Absolutely delighted, cracking little decision! Hopefully we'll see our recent changes in abortion law reversed soon, outright ban across the board ideally. Nice to see some good news every once in a while.
Abortion rights are unique. Every abortion involves killing a human. Prolife and Prochoice positions both involve choosing one groups rights over another groups rights. So, both sides involve taking away rights. That’s why regardless of anyones position, the position of the other side must be respected.
Why not sort it then,and avoid like of this happening
True, Trump was the biggest leftist is the USA before he ran, and now he likes to pretend he's come country singing bull riding holy man.
explain how this is in any way good news
While not a country per se it was banned in parts of the Roman Empire after it had been legal and the norm. I think that might happened twice in fact - in the 1st century AD and again in the fifth century AD.
The descendants of the Visigothic conquerors of Spain banned it after the Roman presence was totally gone, there's a passage in Gibbon I think.
In Sweden in the 11th century it was a pagan practice that was abandoned after mass conversion to Christianity.
These are long-ago examples obviously. No idea of recent examples, maybe South America or parts of Africa?
However ask yourself would the likes of South Carolina and Missouri have voted for it in the first place in 1973?
He should have. Feels like the old line of all that is required for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing. And many a democrat has voiced support for Roe vs Wade and done nothing.
Point taken..
As much as I'm not a fan of the decision, it does make sense in that the justices are abiding by the Constitution and saying it's not explicit.
What I don't get is why democrats when theyve had the chance and they had a majority try to get this as an actual constitutional amendment or a federal law.
Or the general US system really of constitution is set on stone and can't change. Need referendums like here really.
We had a vote remember? Will of the people and all that.
Pity it's so much harder for the people of the states to change their constitution as the majority of Americans are pro choice according to recent polls.
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