The Right religious conservatives and who knows who else have today overturned the constitutional right to abortion in the US.
Will this now embolden anti abortionists in this country to fight back?
The US is a cold place for women now.
Also, Barack Obama can f*ck off preaching about this. He theoretically had the votes to break the filibuster to codify this and he did nothing.
Isn't that what happened already in 1973?
The Federal constitution and Federal law is silent on abortion. For the law to be the law - it has to be in law first. Instead there was a vaccuum and decisions being made indirectly based on interpretation of how other laws applied to this scenario.
The American right really have gone all out to justify the worst things ever said about them. They used to believe in patriotism, military strength, democracy, individual liberty and small government. Now, it's just cruelty, venality and fascism.
so you’re fine when justices do it but it favours you? Like it or not that was how Roe v Wade happened. There is no constitutional basis for it. Never was. Honestly judges stepping out of line in that decision and has caused more harm than good.
and let’s be clear this day was always coming. I had some of the biggest hardcore liberal professors in university and they even said the decision has no foundation in constitutional law, even though they full agreed with it. Democrats really need to look back at the close to 50 years and what they’ve done / not done in preparation for this inevitability.
Prayers for young women who may feel the need to take their lives after this decision. Women who would never survive a childbirth.
It’s about control. Anyone who says otherwise is completely deluded.
Celebrating women dying because they wanted to terminate the pregnancy that was caused by rape. Scum.
Meh, American domestic issue. Irrelevant.
They always overlook too that their beloved SC judge, RBG, didn't agree with Roe v Wade either, as she thought that it sat on shaky ground. Like the last thread, legalities will hardly be spoken of, and outrage and hysteria will be all that we'll see.
I don't see you post on every thread when something isn't relevant to you. Thanks for stopping by all the same...
Prayers for young women who may feel the need to take their lives after this decision.
lol are you for real? what goes on in your head that you do be inventing these scenarios 🤣
The USA ... Backwards thinking filthy shithole.
While I think that today is an awful day for America, the abortion rights they enjoyed under Roe v Wade were always really tenuous.
The right to an abortion should not originally have been based on the Supreme Court's interpretation of privacy rights in a constitution from the 1700s. This right should have been Federal law passed through Congress. Their system of Government is so broken.
It is irrelevant to us here in Ireland. Whatever you think of the decision, legislating through the courts is the stupidest way as what's given by one set of judges can be taken away by another.
The US will be forced to confront this issue now head on and it's representatives actually do their jobs and legislate.
Yet every thread you come in here to say the exact same thing.
pretty sure thats not a hypothetical scenario, most likely people will end up taking their own lives because of this. slight irony possibly though that the original poster was offering 'prayers' when part of the problem here is fundamental christians.
interesting how youre able to use the internet from the 1800s.......
Absolutely fantastic news.
America for all her faults is still salvageable.
Or I've actually heard from such women this morning.
Yes I am for real. You can jog on or laugh IDGAF.
No, because we did essentially the same thing in 2018 - take jurisdiction over the issue away from courts and constitutions and put it in the hands of elected representatives - and it has had the polar opposite effect.
You going to be adopting a few of these unwanted babies?
It's alright for overheal to come onto every thread though and say the exact same democratic party line every time though. It seems some want to turn this current affairs forum on an Irish site over to the American culture war.
Maybe you might try and contextualise it then on how it impacts us here?
I understand that and I agree to an extent, but this had been settled law for 50 years. It can't be a coincidence that it's overturned as soon as the court is packed with right wingers. Your political leaning should have no bearing on how you interpret the law.
What they really need is an updated constitution, not this obsession with a document written in the late 1700s when women and minorities had zero rights, and white men controlled absolutely everything.
Its the US. It is more than happy to f over its own people to avoid some elected representatives doing work and the rest will be doing work to actively f over the population.
I would add that the supreme court justices who overturned this disagreed with your opinion and stated under oath it was settled while under oath.
LOL I may be mistaken but where does it say in the forum guidelines that discussions must only be about Irish Current Affairs.....
Enters thread...
Well also, and I could be wrong on this, but during their approval hearings weren't the judges asked their position on Roe v Wade and said it was settled law? So it does speak of playing the long game...
In theory could they be impeached for that?
I didn't think this would happen in reality I thought I would only see this in a West Wing episode or similar movie.
It doesn't, but these threads always end up the same Overheal going back and forth with the same posters debating the minutae of American constitutional law in the most long winded manner.
I guarantee this thread will end up the same.
Why are you posting here so?
In fairness though, why did you click on a thread about a ruling about American constitutional law and then give out about it being about american constitutional law?
Granted if the thread was about an irish topic and then american constitutional law took over the debate, you might have a point.
Seems like you could have well avoided this. It was well signposted.
And.....? Its a discussion forum, Roe V Wade being struck down is despicable and very much a current affair worthy of discussion by anyone who wants to, if you dont want to discuss it leave the thread......
Plan is nationwide ban on abortion https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/05/mitch-mcconnell-acknowledges-a-national-abortion-ban-is-possible-if-roe-is-overturned
