Achieved you say what exactly is the achievement from a destroyed city and thousands dead.
It can be spun that way if you like but that’s not what Ukrainians are saying and also this is what putins strategy is a slow creep forward.
The russian army is weaker than it was before it approached Severodonetsk.This has been the military plan all along and it will continue to be the plan in the east until Ukraine has the power to launch an effective counter attack.
I’d keep breathing in the meantime Albania and Bosnia 🇧🇦 have
Putin strategy of a slow creep forward is because all other strategies failed.
In humanistic terms, not much achieved, because war is an absolutely dreadful business.
In strategic terms, Ukraine are successfully limiting Russian advances to an absolute snail's pace and making Russia expend a lot of military resources in the process. If the UAF cannot push Russia out of large areas in this present time, the next best thing they can do is to make advancing very difficult. Bleed the beast, as it were.
They can't continue creeping forward this slowly indefinitely. Lysychansk is on higher ground directly behind a river. It will be an order of magnitude harder for the Russians (though they seem to be worryingly coming up from the southwest also).
Right now, Ukraine has no real choice but to fight a delaying action in the Donbas, with the aim to make the Russians pay dearly for every single meter of ground. That has definitely been achieved in Severodonetsk, whatever damage the city suffered, Russian forces have suffered severe losses in their weeks-long attempt to take the city. At the same time, whilst the defenders suffered some significant losses themselves, it appears like a) they were nowhere in the same ballpark as those on the Russian side and b) Ukraine were able to pull a significant number of their units in the city across the Severski Donets river to Lysychansk in fighting condition, which is a massive achievement in its own right.
Given the elevated location of Lysychansk, which sits on a bluff overlooking Severodonetsk and about 40-60 meters above the flood plain where the latter city is built on, Ukraine has managed to bleed the Russians dry for a city that is now vulnerable to harassing fire from the heights of Lysychansk whilst being extremely hard to take for any type of assault, especially now that the bridges are blown. Ukraine made Russia pay dearly for a piss-poor defensive position. A Pyrrhic victory if I've ever seen one.
How do you mean "spun". There's a strategic advantage to tackle the invaders from across the River. There has been one shocking devastation of Russian troops already at one such crossing. Trying to take back a destroyed city didn't really make sense to me, apart from street fighting giving the Ukrainians an advantage, but if the Russians have learned to go back to old tactics and bomb the **** out of things there's no point being in the city. Let the howitzers battle it out.
Can you detail what the Ukrainians are saying to negate the above. And as for "... and also this is what putins strategy is a slow creep forward."
Ah, man - thanks for the chuckle, so Putin doesn't want a quick victory, this slow creep forward is part of his MASTER plan. Time is not on the side of the 21st Century's Hitler. Would love to hear a Putin advocate's opinion as to how a long protracted war is serving Putin's ingenious master plan. I'm all ears...
Is your question a variant of the "Why are the Ukrainians defending themselves against mighty Mother Russia?"
If so... Go Beep Beep
Ah, Putin. He remains a master strategist.
Exactly, their coming from the south west. What’s happening now was predicted weeks ago. I posted a link to a podcast some weeks ago, Eamon Dunphys the stand, where this was exactly the topic but I was labelled a putin mouth piece. Nobody benefits from shutting off reality.
and you’re military rank is ?
That’s a Bizarre statement what exactly is your angle. 📐
MY angle is on the level 😛
Learn to read.
Remember to point your mouth up before you spout loaded questions in case you blow your own feet off
Well, your English Syntax is not the easiest to follow... But, where have I misread?
If you say so man 👨🏻 🤔
Fast forward into Kiev - 3 days at most lads and it will be ours. THEN go down a few gears lads and we will now slooowly creeeeeep - a few metres a day is acceptable - by a few metres a day and victory will be ours eventually. In the meantime if you are still alive you will be very welcome to me to May’s parade
Lol, English syntax 😂
HIMARS are in the battle.
I think your mother country saying may not be translating so well to English. 🤣
And what country is that ?
Saw a poster on reddit from Kherson
Went something like
"less like Peter the Great, more like Adolf II"
The Russians cant/wont make a frontal assault on Lisichansk because all the bridges over the river have been blown, and because they are days/weeks away from a full encirclement of the city. Only 1 road out of Lisichansk is under Ukrainian control, and in a number of days the Russians will have fire control over this.
The UAF will have to make some hard choices very soon about whether to retreat from Lisichansk or allow 1000s of troops be captured in the encirclement and ensuing siege of the city.
You'll have to ask Putin that.
It will be at least a decade and there's no guarantee that the likes of Ukraine will not backslide into old habits of press and judicial control plus there is the small matter of a war to wrap up first. Nothing much can move until then. Hopefully though, they'll behave a bit better than some more recent members. It is ironic that Putin's ire at Western encroachment has potentially expanded both NATO and the EU all for the sake of a couple of towns.
That it has taken weeks for them to even manage as much as they have does not bode well for them.
Another fair assessment of the war. Russia is undoubtedly planning for the long term [4 years pluss] and waiting for ammo and weapons to run out in Ukraine. Odd, the US seem to think a long war will work for the Ukraine even though Russia is at its weakest right now as apart from old codgers in their 50s and old 1970s weapons they have little left. as for the fear of providing long-range weapons that is a counterproductive situation as without long-range rockets and missiles Ukraine can not drive Russia out. I would love to know what the CIA are telling president Joe. I don't honestly see Ukraine using long-range weapons directly into Russia when they need it all for the Russian positions in the Ukraine.
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