I don't think it speaks to its inclusive nature. Sometimes I feel if I say anything or pass comment on the fact that it is actually an exclusive month dedicated to a minority, I am deemed a bigot which I am not. Discuss....🤔
It doesn't bother me at all. I'm just curious about how some things went from a day to a weekend to a week to a month long thing.
Close enough.
https://www.gypsy-traveller.org/heritage/gypsy-roma-and-traveller-history-month-2022/
If you need 1/12th of everyone's lives, every year, to sell an idea, you've got to wonder about the quality of the idea.
There's a lot more going on than just the parades. I don't participate in it myself, but there is quite a broad selection of activities (such as community workshops, or small concerts/art displays/exhibitions/etc) available for those interested.
I agree that a Pride month is too much. But nobody is forced to participate. Just ignore it if it's something you're not bothered involving yourself in it.
Sure, you could fit all the parades into one week, but what would you do to make the rest of June special in any way? It's a long way to Halloween and Christmas yet. Black History month is not a thing in Ireland afaik, but it could be interesting to have a Traveller's History month.
I don't get why this lasts a month. PRIDE month, Black History Month, I mean there really isn't a month's worth of stuff to drag the arse out of is there?
I'm just waiting for the next rugby match!
But in all seriousness, would you choose mature cheddar or edam in your toasted sandwich (trick question)
You described it fine... 😁 and I understand where you're coming from. TBH I'm kinda jaded with all that kind of living.. middle age and all that. More interested in settling down, and chillin.
That's a curious one. I love Berlin. Probably my favourite city in Europe. Definitely a city thats all over the place, depending on districts.
I'm no prude and have a few kinks (very tame) myself and stuff that makes me go hmmm, that might be interesting.
It's more the how mad can we get kinda thing that I don't get. We've all experimented with stuff, not just sex, but it's more the feeling its a competition. Again, I'm not as eloquent as you, but it's a more a feeling post.
I spent some time in Berlin. Wonderful city. Particularly wonderful if you're LGBTQ, curious, energetic, etc. Amazing clubs, but also a lot of dungeon clubs. Great for the fetish groups. I've experimented a lot, but when you have a city that open to everything? I was shocked more than once (enjoyed it too).. and I'm bisexual.. open to both genders. Now.. put a normal guy or women in my place? haha.. Good lord. People are often very conservative when it comes to sex, or the psychology of it all.. The LGBTQ community often likes to take what normally goes on behind closed doors (or niche areas), and expose normal people to it. The shock value matters to them. Sure, it's fun.. but.. there's negatives to such behaviour.
Two points you made there interested me.
First is the experience/ age thing. I agree and I believe I mentioned it before that's it been there done it mentality. This is not what I want but got the rocks off. Kinda boring to be honest.
Then onto the kink/fetishism stuff. I looked a porn site there and som of the stuff made me go huh? Each to their own, as long as consensual and legal, and everything but some just plain strange to me (mom and son, family matters, barely legal...).
Not my bag. This is hetero stuff, but I imagine it's the same for any other sexuality selection.
I'd say that age and experience plays a lot into this. I'm middle aged now, and it does affect my perception both Pride and society in general. And I do consider having some degree of cynicism as being healthy in the rather complicated society we live in today. When I was young, I accepted more without seeking to see the layers involved. I can't do that anymore. Nor would I want to.
Oh, and the freedoms we received came from the LGBQ community.. not the Trans. I'm always amazed at the desire to shoehorn the Trans into everything. Their numbers are tiny, even after two decades of LGBTQ being promoted together, and the broadening of the term to include more groups... back in the day, their numbers were far smaller again. And yet, you would say that the Q/T gained all these freedoms for the rest of us? haha.. yeah. Right. No.
As for what is shocking or not, actually I'd say that the sexualisation in the gay fetish/kink communities would shock most people. But then, I'd say the same of the fetish/kink heterosexuals. Most people are not exposed to such things, and seeing it in media isn't the same as seeing it in front of you.
You obviously need to read the instruction manual of the appliances doing this to you.
Id be down the park otherwise but weather is too unpredictable !!
Jaysus is that all you're selling 😆
Fabulousness..and a cheeky finger behind the bins on Capel St if you play your cards right
Sex sells. What are the gays selling?
Ive seen the wedding invites go round and invites to stag parties. BTW Why are there scantily clad women in music videos, why is this being pushed in my face??
Due to most of the influence being from religious influences than state persecution. Religious idealologies at the centre of Orthodox Christianity preach anti gay sentiment. The Ukranian state thought has banned discrimination in the workplace on grounds of sexual orientation, has hate crime legislation on its books and sodomy is legal. Those are for a start. The method by which you make a blanket statement is too black and white.
And? I don't understand your point.
How can anyone say Ukrainians share the European values when they're largely homophobic? Whether we have been homophobic in the past makes no difference to the here and now.
Reading your
Reading that post, its like the Irish have never been homophobic in their life. Iona Institute and others are still in existence.
There is an inbred internalised battle that goes on with some homosexuals around this time of year, I was eskimohunt at one stage. My posts and matter of speaking on Pride was tainted with an unhealthy cynicism that lived in me. From working at grass roots with the community it opened my eyes to how we are in a very special priveleged position. Pride has become a commerical entity far removed from what it was years ago when those drag queens and trans we complain so much of fought to give us the freedoms we have today. Important to reorientate it towards that. Pride is also for the fetish and kink communities, with overt sexualisation in the media so commonplace now none of it should be a shock
Cause people are still subject to homophobia, rights are limited in plenty of countries. Efforts are made to limit their rights, even within the EU. Check the likes of Poland or Hungary. So pride is both a celebration and solidarity with those who still face discrimination across the globe. It's equally a recognition of those who campaigned over decades for those rights.
The homophobes etc attack for any reason they can. Hiding away just gives them more power tbh.
Yes I'm confused very confused.
Take care bye
I agree.. but usually those made up minds come from a place of ignorance. They've met one homosexual and so, believe that all homosexuals are the same. Or they had one experience, or saw something on TV, or heard something from a parent. Ignorance. Limited exposure.
Those minds will change when they see homosexuals as being little different from them, and their friends. Which is the reality.
Or they won't change, but will die off eventually, and those who come after will be more open-minded towards homosexuality. However, there's always going to be homophobia, because some people can't tolerate what is different from themselves. I've met homosexuals who were sexist, racist, etc. People are people. It's really that simple.
I have a simple question because I'm confused. "It shouldn't exist gay marriage was mandated for end of." - what's this about? Pride is not, and never was, about gay marriage. *Marriage equality is one thread in the tapestry.
And there's the victimhood narrative.
This is a discussion forum. It's intended for discussion. Now you're pretending I called you a homophobe when I did no such thing.
So now you're supportive of Pride but it shouldn't exist.
I've no idea what to make of this. You seem to be very confused.
I think there is the wrong focus here. Pride isn't about homophobia. It's not about the heterosexual population. It's about the LGBQ community. The perception we have about ourselves and promoting the positives of that to everyone, so that it diminishes the ignorance that exists.
In the past, stereotypes and hate/fear/contempt/distrust caused people to talk a lot of shite about homosexuals. Misconceptions were commonplace. And that's why Pride exists. It's primarily a celebration for the LGBQ community to publicly express themselves, and secondly, to show everyone what is involved, without the biases of the past.
Lastly, homophobia, inequalities, and ignorance will always exist. It's a pipedream that it's ever going to disappear completely. Pride will continue to evolve and become something different over time. What that is, I don't know, but it's still needed for now. Later, I don't know. We'll just have to wait and see what kind of society we have in another 20-30 years.
Weird. Claiming you couldn't care less then saying why you do care.
I'm supportive of it yes why are you starting an argument?
I dont see the purpose in it yes. Doesnt mean I cant support it.
Your post signifies pride for me. It's a platform for this whole debate of why dont you support it are you a homophobe etc.
It shouldn't exist gay marriage was mandated for end of.
I have said that already.
Now your here sparring for an argument on the back of pride and my opinion on it.
More or less called me a homophobic without meeting me a few posts back!
This sums up pride.
Its happening I dont see why but i am supportive of it best of luck.
They way this country is going we will be having the white privilege educated male day in a few years anyway.
Just hope the months dont clash as you will be exhausted from counter questioning peoples opinions.
Again enjoy your month.
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