I don't think it speaks to its inclusive nature. Sometimes I feel if I say anything or pass comment on the fact that it is actually an exclusive month dedicated to a minority, I am deemed a bigot which I am not. Discuss....🤔
Leinster rugby player Nick McCarthy comes out as gay.
Fair play to him - and I believe that he is the first professional Irish rugby player to come out.
Article linked here:
So, you're fully supportive of Pride but you've a few posts complaining about its existence. Why would you support something you deem unnecessary?
No amount of rainbow coloured roundabouts and flags are going to change minds and opinions that are already made up.
Best of luck with it so .
Fully supportive of it just dont see the need.
Enjoy it.
Homophobes will be homophobes regardless of what colour roundabouts are. Why should we pander to them?
In 2022, yes, there is a need. Any time I speak with my gay friends, this becomes apparent very quickly.
I couldnt care less what someone's demo is to be honest gat straight and the other 100 varieties that exist.
Where I am its pride flags roundabouts painted and pedestrian flags. Its everywhere.
It give real homophobes a platform of attack.
But I wonder why do we need this why are we differentiating still in 2022 there is no need.
Anyway I'm out I'm not being dragged down the old your a homophobe because you expressed a mere opinion on the matter outside the gay mainstream.
I know yeah. And the irony of having virtue signalling rants about virtue signalling
It's funny how the people who say they just want to get on with their lives have so much time to spend wailing about a demographic that's tiny in proportion to the heterosexual portion of the populace. Like, if it weren't for this site, I'd have gone through the whole month without twigging that it was Pride.
I met the only gay in my village once.
Do that stop you wondering and hinting at homophobia straight away.
Is that enough for you.
Prejudice exists everywhere get over yourself.
It's a case of some are more equal than other again.
Some people actually want to just live their lives instead of tripping over virtue signalling and media bullshit every other week about an issue which less be clear has been clearly voted upon and accepted.
Homophobia and inequality still exist. That's why people still celebrate Pride. They're not proving that they exist which is a bizarre thing to say.
I'm wondering if you've ever actually met a gay person when you come out with stuff like this.
I'm kidding by the way. But why does pride really exist now?
Gay marriage is accepted homosexuality is accepted.
I know there were issues in the past but the past is gone move on forget it.
Everyone is equal now so why do one group of society need to prove their existence once a year?
When the vote was granted on marriage we the public spoke.
Its accepted end of. Why drag history up.
Great idea
I find it hard to believe that you actually believe that.
strongly disagree
Why should we ban something just because you don't like it?
By what metric does Pride week harm anyone?
I think pride month should be banned.
Why?
This follows on form the ban culture in Ireland.
What has been banned in Ireland that isn't commonly prevented in other Western nations?
The topic is causing distress for many and in the interest if mental health, health and safety and in line with thinking of the kids and vulnerable pride month should be banned.
You have some evidence of this?
Mental health, health and safety.. are threatened by Pride.. how exactly?
We have had similar threads of a nature already on boards.ie.
See similar banning threads on here for reference
Ban it
Happy Pride, lads. Finally we've an openly gay man who works in one of the top professional sports in the country.
No evidence will surface counter to your claims precisely because the whole point of labels like transphobia and xenophobia and so on, is that they are often used not to be accurate, but to be effective means at smearing others and stifling debate.
Polling shows that Islamic countries are overwhelmingly in favour of criminalising homosexuality. Clearly, then, mass immigration from these countries brings these ideas into the host country. The ideas don't evaporate into thin air once a visa has been granted.
Polls in the UK and France of Muslims show an extremely high percentage of them retain their views on many issues, including LGBTQ, after living in western nations, but also that 2nd/3rd generations, tend to (obviously enough) match many of the views of their parents. After all, it is their religion that is anti-LGBTQ so the conditioning and reinforcement of traditional views continues.
Modern western policy on immigration is not concerned with assimilation. There is no interest in imparting the culture and values of western nations on to those who immigrate here. Rather, they are encouraged to keep their own culture and traditions... and the world outside of western nations is overwhelmingly anti-LGBTQ.
The cries of xenophobia is a way of stifling debate because those so interested in diversity and immigration, don't want to face just how weak their own position is. I fully expect ancapailldorcha not to justify or argue his claim. Would love to be proven wrong on this, but I doubt that I will be.
True, 50 percent of UK Muslims believe that homosexuality should be illegal. Not "unacceptable", but illegal.
What happened to assimilation and we'll change their views, and all that kind of waffle?
I remember ages ago coming across surveys done in the UK where they examined attitudes towards things like homosexuality and found certain groups were less accepting then others. Peoples bring their values with them when they emigrate and they pass those values onto their children.
Apparently being concerned that immigration may immigrate bad ideas into a country is xenophobic.
When was the last time we saw a gay pride parade in Somalia?
It's not xenophobic at all; it's the stark reality that hatred towards gay people is prevalent in many countries across the planet, most notably in Islamic countries.
I don't see how you could class that as xenophobic?
What makes it xenophobic?
not initially, but if they eventually join the European Union it'll grow, just compare all the eastern European Union member states to their neighbors. They all have a good 10-20% higher then any of the Balkan or other eastern European states that are not EU members, with the exception of Bulgaria which is still higher but only by 3-5%. And it'll hopefully continue to grow.
I'm not in the slightest bit bothered it was closed. I wasn't looking for a fiery back and forth. All I wanted was to put my view across and I'm glad I had an opportunity to do so and equally glad the thread wasn't deleted.
And there's the sneering xenophobia. In other threads, we'll see faux concern for LGBT people used to mask this. It's pathetically transparent and even if it weren't, comments like this would have given your sad little game away because you had to get your snide comment in.
I would say tolerant
Whereas I'd say that Irish society was well behind other European countries until the early 00s. Not tolerant at all, beyond the soundbites. However, Ireland, once it started to embrace the idea of homosexuality being acceptable, jumped on to it quicker than anywhere else... remarkable change in such a short period... but before that? Not good. At all.
“ramming homosexuality down the throats”
Have you ever experienced in your day to day real life a homosexual ramming it down your throat or is it an entirely online phenomenon?
I would say tolerant, it’s just nobody really put it to us before but regarding societies - limitations; at what point might one devolve? It’s common knowledge in scaling the peak if your visor is clouded you may go beyond and fall right off that sheer cliff face.
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