I don't think it speaks to its inclusive nature. Sometimes I feel if I say anything or pass comment on the fact that it is actually an exclusive month dedicated to a minority, I am deemed a bigot which I am not. Discuss....🤔
Can a gay couple conceive and have a baby?
A lesbian couple?
I believe you need one to insert the semen and one to carry the baby, something not possible in same sex relations.
I don’t think heterosexuals can exclusively lay claim to that achievement Fandymo 😂
I was thinking the same thing.
Have this son, you've earned it...
I can speak from my experience as a straight guy with the Gardai when I was the victim of an attack. It was fcuking shocking.
I've always felt that corporate pride stuff is an absolute joke. Where was that support years ago when it was really needed? It's easy to virtue signal when there's no down side to doing so, plus they'll never engage in promoting LGBTQ rights in places they operate that are not open to it.
The middle paragraph had an almost conspiratorial whiff to it, the Queens money and her child abusing son, the type of stuff that gets people banned off of YouTube.
Why? If it wasn’t for Herero men and women, humankind would have petered out hundreds of years ago. Keeping the human race going is something to be proud of. No?
There is no doubt that gay people can have been attached/assaulted for who they are. I object to you saying that gay people are 'regularly' attacked.
I'm never been attacked for being gay (or do I know anyone who has), but been a victim of harassment always in a some city which had nothing to so with my gayness. I'm far more concerned about walking around some areas of Dublin for example that I'm ever 'living in fear' (as GCN put it) about being a victim of a phobic attack.
Eskimo were you a bar of soap in a previous life or something? 😁 You’re well aware that you’re making slippery arguments because of the way you’re suggesting ‘current legislation’.
You know well that the current furore is coming off the back of the proposed changes to current Irish legislation in relation to maternity leave in employment, precisely because it doesn’t take account of the equal rights of people who are transgender in relation to maternity leave in employment.
There are plenty more areas in society where people are denied their civil, political, social and human rights on the basis that they are transgender. The issues faced by people who are transgender aren’t just limited to your narrow perspective. They face discrimination in healthcare, education, housing, and employment, on the basis that they are transgender, and there are people who argue that they should continue to be denied fair treatment, unless they conform to those peoples standards and pretend they’re not transgender.
It’s no different than, and I’m sure you’re aware of it, people who argued that people who are lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender already had the right to enter into marriage under the same conditions in Irish law as everyone else. They were, like you, pretending that they didn’t understand the point of marriage equality.
They were, like you, pretending that they were fine with gay people who wanted to get married, as long as they don’t have children. They were, like you, fine with people who are transgender living their lives however they wanted, as long as they don’t get ideas about having children or starting a family or working in the same job or competing in the same sports or living in the same neighbourhood or even the most mundane shìte as shopping for their weekly groceries in the same shops as everyone else -
https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2013/11/20/tesco-launches-inquiry-into-employees-posting-online-photos-and-videos-abusing-trans-customers/
They are, like you, fine with people who are transgender living their lives however they want, as long as they live their lives according to how that person thinks anyone should live their lives - “you don’t get to enjoy the same freedoms as me, because you having the same freedom as me means we’re equals, and I don’t want you getting ideas above your station”.
Nope, I'm just someone who lives in a sh*thole part of Dublin and who doesn't get flittered every day. Anyway, probably off topic. Enjoy your ethereal walks. Take the tip.
You're getting mixed up with the courts where they just say "Howya lads, seeya lads, keep on walking the streets lads"
'When Trans people are being unfairly targeted by organised (and well funded) groups.'
Are these Irish and/or British groups and who funds them?
I know of no Irish based gender identity critical groups that receive a penny from Govt so who would be well funding them and what does the 'targetting' entail?
Any pointers gladly received.
We dont need the attention though, we need full clean acceptance of who we are. Its nigh high impossible (as your good self should know eskimo) that its virtually impossible to measure what percentage of the attention we get. Take the Boards.ie AH or CA forums, the very minute something trans comes up there is attention reigned upon it by people deriding trans swimmers or toilets or whatever that particular topic du jour is. The media cover it with what ever element that they want. As you said , if 95% of the community is hetro then there is a good reason to have Pride. Any equal argument you make could be applied to Paddys Day, should we ban that and tell the Americans not to promote is as its reifnrocing the drunk stereotypes of Irish people and most Americans are not of Irish descent?
That's hyperbolic nonsense. Anyone who lives in Dublin just says "Howya lads" and keeps on walking.
On the crime thing, this notion that everyone and anyone is going to conform to any sort of ideal, however harmless, is absolutely ludicrous. It is not going to happen, never has, never will. The world is filled with all manner of absolute shower of confrontational trash that have zero interest in letting anybody live their lives however way they want. This trash will actively seek confrontation, hastle and even violence on anybody if they choose to. When I get down to Dublin I like to walk around Dublin city at night alone, I find it a ethereal experience of sorts, but I am always aware I could be literally two seconds away from some make of confrontation or violence. Lets say some night I run into a few violent anti-social types and they ask me what am I doing and I tell them I like walking around Dublin city because I find it an ethereal experience, I'd be flittered and probably slashed in the face quicker than anybody else. You cant educate everybody to conform or even understand what your own thing is because basically in this individualistic world, nobody cares. They only care about their own situation, turf or standing, especially the ones whose basic social standing is predicated on showcasing various forms of confrontation and violence. This is basic $hit. You have to prepare for the inevitable that you, anybody, could run into one of these people. Not demand that they need to be 'educated' or some other sort of nonsense in order to 'conform'. They are not going to, never will. The system wants them just as they are, so anybody thinking state sponsored 'education' is going to sort them out is going to be existing in a world of disappointment until they cop themselves on.
What legal trans right is missing?
When it was the gay rights issues; we had marriage, and so on. Legitimate debates.
But what trans rights are missing from our current legislation?
Are you questioning their parentage!?
Nothing is inclusive if cis white men are the majority.
**** patriarchal bastards
100%.
Maybe I'm simple. Whether rugby, hurling...whatever sports or activity. Does it matter? If you're a dick you're a dick. Sound out, join us.
So they are saying the gaa are not inclusive?
It’s not like you Eskimo to pretend you missed the point? 🤔
As if 😂
We're gay. We're not victims.
Sometimes, bad things happen. As they do to everyone. But that's all it is.
Their argument is basically that Pride has become mainstream. I like the way you put that though -
Apart from their history of arresting and harassing gay people, what’s the issue today with uniformed Gardai ?
😁
I would bet you my mortgage that this isn't how it would work at all. It would be promoted as an LGBTQ+ friendly team that would start at the very bottom of the junior leagues, but they would absolutely welcome everyone regardless of their sexual orientation.
Case in point, the Emerald Warriors rugby team. Exact same premise but they welcome everyone.
Imagine trying to make out the LGBTQ+ community as non-inclusive and making absolute sh*te of it. Another swing and a miss from your good self.
Yep, and the post you have here that got many thanks: Well, it’s pretty much everything I would have tried to say!!!!
Hamachi if I laid out on a beach, people would be calling Greenpeace, thinking they’d just spotted a beached whale 😂
Of course not unfortunately, but there is no reason why we couldn't highlight the issue and try to reduce the likelihood of one occuring.
I think validation is the word that psychologists use, but yes, I think the direction of travel of your point is right.
I can only speak from my personal experience with the gardai when I was a victim of a homophobic attack and it was poor, and it wasn't that long ago.
ONe person. I wont guess at the internal politics, but it's a start and well respected.
Rugby is played on the pitch. Not your sexuality.
Pride Month, just like any other movement today is all just to do with attention seeking. The world’s people are obsessed with being approved and recognized and tagged and bigged up!!!
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