I don't think it speaks to its inclusive nature. Sometimes I feel if I say anything or pass comment on the fact that it is actually an exclusive month dedicated to a minority, I am deemed a bigot which I am not. Discuss....🤔
No, people in this thread have expressed that they are uncomfortable with public displays of affection - irrespective of whether the couple is gay or straight.
Big difference.
People in this thread have issues with it.
That makes zero sense. What you are saying is:
Straight couple - Not waving it in other peoples faces.
Gay couple kissing - Waving it in other peoples faces.
Honestly your personal abhorrence of LBGTQ people is disturbing that you seek to stereotype them all as aggressive and provocative.
Except when they're not just doing their own thing, but waving it in other peoples faces. This isn't the case of a straight couple kissing in a cafe. They're not pushing their behaviour on you. Whereas there are a lot of gay people out there who feel the need to push their sexuality on to others. It's a challenge, aimed to provoke a reaction.. and when they don't get that reaction, they push harder. That's the problem with pride, and many within the LGBTQ community.
If it was just LGBQ celebrating who they were, then I doubt anyone would have any issues, but there is the challenge factor at play. Which is why we see participants dressed provocatively in ways that they wouldn't dress normally. Or acting out sexual or aggressive scenes because they're aware that Pride gives some license to behave that way..
When you go to a queer friendly or gay venue, you know what to expect... it's the norm to have that provocative behaviour because it's a closed environment. Pride is not such a closed environment, and that's why people can/will criticise those involved.
I don’t think most people see it as a display of homosexuality. I think most Irish people don’t care about that. No matter how gay-friendly a country is, heterosexuality will always be more on display given the numeric differences. I think most people see it originally as part of the Gay rights movement, and later as a celebration of that history and ongoing visibility of LGB and now also T people.
Given the hysteria about Liveline, e.g. women offended/concerned about legislation changes, and then Trans activists in turn having a more important level of offence to this. ”Pride” has morphed into something else. Similar with international companies getting on the bandwagon and “encouraging” staff to participate. I know of more than one gay person who don’t appreciate being requested (on the basis of their private life) to become a public company “ambassador” (or what ever term they may use) for Pride month.
I don't see what point you're trying to make.
You're complaining about "hetero-culture" being "in your face", even though society is 97% heterosexual.
Even though LGBT is a tiny percentage of the population, we are disproportionately taking up headlines and social media and so on.
That is the point i am making albeit tongue in cheek - what right have we to get annoyed at people doing their own thing? I dont care if people want to march down the road in a dress or a man and woman eat the face off each other. This same thread is giving pride attention yet people are claiming its all about attention. There are so many incongruencies resting in the arguments that its hilariously bad!
No one is asking for attention, they are just asking to show that they are proud of who they are. If I throw a birthday party, am I annoyed at strangers not coming to my birthday party? No Im not as it has nothing to do with them, its a celebration of my life - same goes for Pride.
The difference is that you're seeking to make an issue of it. I've held hands with male partners and nobody looked at us twice, except possibly for some kids. Whooptie do. Just as I've done the same with female partners, and nobody cared.
You're looking at heterosexual behaviour and seeking to make an issue of it. The gas thing is that they could both, or just one, be bisexual, and you're misjudging them.
I don't notice any of it. I see someone of any gender kissing or holding hands, it doesn't affect me in the slightest. Might think it's cute, or might even be a mite jealous, but their sexuality doesn't even register.
We are 3-5% of the population, so we shouldn't exactly be surprised if society and culture is replete with what you call "hetero-culture".
You seem to be arguing we deserve 50% of attention. We don't, we're a tiny, tiny, tiny minority.
So in effect people taking pride in who they are then?
The same people who are critical of Pride, I hope they are as critical of the hetro culture that is pushed in our faces...its everywhere...cant get away from it Eskimo ...
At the weekend, I saw numerous instances of gay couples holding hands.
I'm not sure about you, but I've never seen anyone have any issue with it - at least in larger cities.
Even today, nipped up the road at lunch time and there was a guy holding his girlfriends hand strolling down the street. Why do they feel the need to flaunt their straightness?
Exactly. I have to laugh at a lot of the arguments about pride being a display of homosexuality when every day on so many different there are displays of heterosexuality on show. It's not "self absorbed" to notice or highlight that.
Quite rightly. These kind of things are minority groups. Do straight people need to be recognised and given equality do you think?
There was a straight pride parade organised by a right wing grifter a few years back.
This is where you fall down though - there is a pushing it in the face of us, I agree I get tired of 'we are here, we are queer etc etc', I dont need constant reminders of it . However view the media through our lens and see what we are be soaked in - hetrosexual portrayals. Love Island, a couple guys trying to get with some birds, music videos with women scantily clad, movies where romantic intentions are portrayed idealistically...what the gays have done is effectively copied hetro culture (even that term makes me want to get sick in my mouth, nonsense). There is nothing more off putting than a gay or a straight couple chewing the face off each other, its annoying so I will give you that yet do not for one second think that we have somehow the monopoly on sexualisation of political events like pride, the sexualisation has been happening for donkeys years. With all things being equal we should campaign to stop the whole thing - no reality TV, No scantily clad women and no portrayal of unreal man/woman lovey dovey style relationships on TV and scrap Pride. Unfortunately Ive to point out the straights are doing it for years and it becomes main stream but the gays do it and ..well ...you know the rest. All of these histronics people are showing over a flag and a few lads marching up the street pales in comparison to the cultural bollix we have been subjected to over the years!!
I've lost count of the number of times I've cringed at seeing responses to social media stories about Pride, with, "When are we going to have Straight Pride?".
And they ask this question as if they're the cleverest person on the planet, and as if nobody else has ever said this remark before. They probably have a big smile on their face as they're typing it, not realising how stupid they look.
Anyone who asks that question - "When are we going to have Straight Pride?" - is monumental idiot, in my opinion.
It's utter, gutter-level cringe.
Ya, rights being limited or being targeted because you're straight has never been a thing. Straight people aren't being targeted in the likes of Russia, Hungary or the Middle East. In fact, I've seen posters justify the legislative targeting in Russia and Hungary (suspect a fair few who are annoyed by pride agree with them too) so the issue of homophobia isn't going away any time soon.
So yep, pride I very much so support. It's support for those who are targeted and it's a celebration and recognition of a pretty difficult history.
That's because the concept of straight pride is edgelord drivel and nothing else.
If someone said they were having a straight pride festival they’d be labelled a bigot and phobe
It's so frustrating to see that you are so close to understanding people's confusion about Pride Month and instead go on this weird passive aggressive ranty thing instead.
All of the things you are talking about are like the background radiation of a species that reproduces when a man and a woman get together and, you know the rest. Or maybe you don't. I don't care.
People don't "proudly display their heterosexuality". They just act in their nature and get on with it. They don't need a flag to let you know they are just getting on with it. They don't need their employer to send emails every day for a month to let you know they are just getting on with it. They are just living their lives and getting on with things. There's no overt "It's Great To Be Straight" advertising or whatever. When you see the happy man and woman holding hands on the street, that's just people doing their thing and not making a big deal of it.
If you stopped being so self absorbed for a minute you'd notice that loads of people absolutely hate public displays of affection. If I see two heterosexual young ones snogging the face off each other at the bus stop? I think that's gross! I don't want to see that stuff. I can say that though. I can see those two gross wet heterosexual mouths mashing together and I can say "ew that's gross" and nobody will give a damn. Can't say that out loud if it's a gay couple mind you. That might be hate speech.
People would see it has highly inappropriate if some lad in the work is talking about the specifics of what he does with his girlfriend when they go away for the weekend. Yes, talking about their trip away to France is fine and all but nobody wants to hear explicit details. Nobody! You think straight folks are gathering round and listening intently when that greasy guy at work wants to brag in explicit detail about his conquests? Nope! We even have euphemisms to avoid this kind of talk. When someone says "I slept with whatshername" I can guarantee you there was very little sleeping.
People object to the pushing of pride precisely because heterosexual relationships are absolutely not pushed in the same way. If you actually think they are then you need to think a little harder.
I’m only after copping you’re talking about the Queen, like, THE Queen, not… queens 😬
Oh believe me Jack, THE Queen of England for some is only a template for a proper Queen in some circles 😄
edit: I'll take one month in prison for that, because it was worth it.
stupid vanilla
I saw this millions of years ago, didn't think I'd find it so easily.
Im offended I identify as an octopus!
Possibly add "Red Herring" to your email signature 😂
Ive seen women do it by writing Mrs,
Should hear the lads talking in the canteen about going for dinner with their wives, honestly pushing that hetroness in my face (I'll stop sarcastically labouring that point now as Im sure everyone is tired of it but you get my drift)
I've never seen a man putting an announcement in their email signature.
i said the same thing about male colleagues talking about their wives, quite why they want to flaunt their heterosexuality is beyond me. We already know...
I’m going to start a hay pride festival…
id tell you more about it but I’m feeling a little horse…
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