A logical overstay fee, like at a Tesla Supercharger is a great idea. Moves people along fairly sharpish when their car is charged.
I don't find ESB's 45 min fee as logical.
If you're referencing my post then exactly people will suit themselves so really why would anyone be overly surprised to find BEVs or PHEVs abandoned at chargers. Of course the way to solve it, if deemed appropriate, is to charge an overstay charge as that would make it uneconomic to hog the charger ensuring this most precious recource is available to more motorists.
But they're not getting a charge. We're talking about someone who's car charged hours ago and rather than move it to allow another person charge they go "fcuk it, I'm plugged in so what's the big deal".
It's completely inconsiderate for a Volvo phev to stay plugged into a 11kw socket for 8 to 10 hours every day and not move once they are fully charged.
It doesn't surprise me in the slightest because we are becoming more and more an "I'm alright jack" country every day.
I fail to see how a person getting a charge is to blame , frustration should be with the car or lack of chargers or your purchase.
I know if I worked in a pay for parking area, I would be doing my best not to pay, I know I would be doing my best to reduce my expenditure on fuel, I know as sure as hell there is no guarantee a charger will be available when I want it, you bought your car, live with it, what ever its pro's or con's are.
Agree. Was always very frustrating when I used to be spinning around looking for an on street charger and finding a lot of then taken up by Range Rover, Volvo, BMW and Merc PHEVS with full batteries. Certainly could be considered as lack of consideration for others but then again most people just look after themselves so it shouldn't be surprising really.
I agree 100% but just making the point that with free parking they have no incentive to move.
It's always parked there and always plugged in so it's totally unfair to others.
Irrelevant if parking is free.
They were not charging and being total d1ckheads blocking a charger from someone else.
Mod Note: Do not suggest causing physical damage to other peoples vehicles
I'm not sure what the reg was. It was a black phev (large one). Parking is free so "theoretically" they could park there for a year!!
😁😀😁 Some context please.
Is there free parking while charging?
What year is the Volvo and model if you know?
So someone is irate 😂. To be fair most times I am here this Volvo jeep is always in the same spot and is always plugged in. They may or may not get the message today!!
P.S I didn't write or leave the note.
Good news for anybody waiting on an MEB car, production is going back up to 3 shifts (1300/day) instead of a single shift (500/day)
2 cards, one account. Both cards have the same long number on them. Got them in the original welcome pack back in 2017.
I've checked. Only Charging Fee and Subscription fee (Membership Activity) product lines for the whole 2021 year. The second card I ordered May/June of 2021.
Maybe check old invoices, ours came out of the pay&go balance so it might have been easy enough to miss. Ours was added Oct '20. Wouldn't surprise me if they were inconsistent.
2 on the same account. I didn't pay anything when ordered the second one. I was on the monthly plan at the time. I see now they charge 9.20 for a new card (pay as you go) and you can order it directly from your profile.
Do you have 2 cards on one account or 2 cards on separate accounts?
Yeah I'm pretty sure it was around €5 for me to get a second card, they must have raised the price recently
That’s mad. I have 2 cards and never paid a penny.
Yes. They originally gave out 2 cards for free as part of the scheme.
Worst part was we couldn't add the two cards to one account, we had to pay for the 2nd card to be added.
It's showing €9.20 for another card, I just wasn't sure if that was to order a replacement.
I might just give herself my eCars card and use the app myself. It'll only be used very rarely so probably no point paying for two.
Would be really handy if you could add your charging cards to Google Pay.
Yep, we've got one each for both cars. Handy to keep around in case you need to charge and phone is dead or app isn't working
Above post suggests you have to pay for the second now!
Alternatively, just use the app. The card is not required.
You can, but you have to pay eCars for the privilege. It's handy if you are running two EVs.
Can I have two eCars charging cards on the one account? Want to get a second card for the Ioniq now to leave in the car and would save me the hassle of opening a second eCars account and topping it up.
I see the option in the app to add a second card but not sure if that cancels the current card.
The day I drove home with my new EV, I saw a metallic blue Taycan parked at the local Tesco.
Don't get me wrong, I love my car and it's one of the nicer looking EVs in my opinion, but the Taycan is definitely a thing of beauty.
Spotted a white Taycan parked in my estate recently. I think some very lucky kid was getting driven to their communion in it
Absolute thing of beauty
I saw a red one few weeks back. Stunning. I got to chat with the owner about public charging so studied a bit and must say impressive looking car.
I was pulling out of a parking space today and I could see an older man in a white taycan looking for a spot. I went alongside him and motioned him for my spot.
I have to say it looked absolutely beautiful. A stunning looking motor.
Why disappointed?
The EFACEC charger that ESB uses was firstly launched in 2012. As a reference in 2012 Microsoft pushed the infamous Windows8 so the user interface was what we call now ancient. I know in '22 physical buttons seem from a century ago but their disappearance is not that far away. Some people won't buy cars without physical controls. Next time try the app is has sliders for start as iOS used to have (I haven't use an iPhone since 2012 so don't know if slide to answer™ is still there). I would be disappointed if the charger wouldn't work or I would need to wait to access it although on that route there are plenty of alternatives.
I just watched Bjorn's 1000km challenge with the "fat" Taycan and his "plug and charge" experience at Ionity. I hope they'll improve it.
He basically charges for longer in order to avoid starting another session as the whole auth process takes very long
