Hey Guys,
Just seeing what everyones thoughts / hopes etc for what might be announced tomorrow.
I wonder will this apply to properties built recently or ones which are currently under construction.
Thanks
So I got quoted 60k and without grants 82k
the wrap
2 doors
heatpump and rads
2kw PV system
project management fee
i died of laughter going why do I have to pay 7k project management fees. They told me this is for specialist project management work, I went I am a project manager (which I am) I should be able to do this he went nope you have to pay as you need a project manager, As I have a ego I said to myself how hard is this to project manage?,
the one stop shop also said I have a flute on my house and need attic installation, one there isn’t a flute and two I provided paperwork for my attic insulation and they could see the grade but nope it needs to be redone … 4 years after I got it done ….
since this quote I am after sorting my wrap, windows and doors, for 14k, getting my PV system quotes next week and on to the heat pump, target for all work is about 30k to 35K, and being honest with myself being a project manager doing my own project work is a walk in the park haha don’t have deadlines to worry about ha,
but yes these one stop shops are a rip off
I got quoted 25K for windows and doors. 12k for Solar panels. 7K for boiler change. I am not convinced it should cost that much
I intend to package all the SEAI work into one and look for a single quote, but may end up ultimately dealing with seperate vendors as you say.
I will obtain quotes from my OSS, through my architect via a tender process, and directly from a couple of builders I know. This should hopefully give me a good breath of costs. To note, I am doing works above the SEAI grant work so have engaged with an architect for this purpose anyway.
Yeah, I've been getting quotes for the work individually too and while there's more headache in dealing with multiple vendors it's significantly cheaper.
Are these quotes via the One Stop Shop providers?
Aye they're taking the piss €70k after grants from another. Still no PV on these quotes either. €30k for a heat pump/new rads etc. The grant for the rads is small enough that I'd get it done myself and get an individual HP install for less than half that and still come out much better off for it.
I got quoted 50k after the grants for the above work.
That's overestimation to say the least.
There's noway those items cost that much.
I’ve been talking to companies since last Oct and am still trudging along working through the process. It’s a pita.
I got a quote from one company for €105k for
EWI
New WINDOWS
1 New Door
attic insulation
heat pump
Small section of cavity pumping
I don’t live in a mansion.
The OSS I am enaging with is more than happy to quote me for additonal non-SEAI grant work, and is also happy to engage with any SEAI registered contractors I put forward. They still get their fees and I spoke at length to them about this. We all understand it is early stages in the process but they were in agreement that this is a scenario that will arise over and over again.
A large amount of One Stop Shop SEAI grant work being undertaken may be on homes being fully renovated from E up to maybe B rating. You would expect the new house owner to be doing other works to the house at the same time as it makes complete sense. My guess is your OSS will change their approach as they think it through further. Otherwise they may not generate as much business.
Builders will also need to review how they work and get paid for these type of jobs. They will have to invoice the OSS for the grant work and invoice the homeowner for the non-grant work. I spoke with a potential builder who did a previous extension for me and, although he had not thought it through, he indicated this would not be a problem for him.
Yeah I have sent my technical assessment to another One stop shop today. To be honest I am really sceptical about this process. I feel like these One Stop Shops will add insane amounts for profit. The problem with doing individual upgrades is that you can't qualify for everything like windows for example. I want to put new triple glazed windows. I think you can only quality for grant through One stop shop.
In terms of works I was recommended:
1. Triple glazed windows
2. 8 PV panels 3.5KW
3. New gas boiler
4. Attic insulation
5. Cavity insulation
Final expected BER: A3
I wonder what figure they will come up with...
The OSS that has responded to me has told me that they won't get involved where there's ane extension/builder:
"we are not in a position to take on board any projects where there is a builder involved or if there is an extension to be built at the same time."
You can use the OSS to provide only grant processing and certification services. You can get your own contractor and get them to deal with the OSS. This is how most scenarios will play out I imagine. The OSS will still get their money either way as they will charge you a Project Management fee so no real difference to them.
The other curious thing is that there is such a gap between granta available to OSS and to individual grants. Why the latter do not cover doors, floors, windows etc just doesn't make sense. If the aim is to make as many homes energy efficient why not have the same grants apply to both? It's very poorly executed.
Yep it's why I'm getting individual quotes and OSS quotes. I know the OSS will cost more but if it's what I'm willing to pay to not b chasing contractors myself then I will but double the price on everything is too much.
This is where the problem will lie. The One Stop Shop providers are basically just getting quotes on your behalf. Builders will see who they are quoting for, determine it is grant work, and price accordingly. Yet to go through the whole process myself but already I have a feeling the SEAI grant scheme money may never make to down to benefit the home owner 😕.
The OSS seems an absolute joke. 5 providers, is it, for the entire country? For a government funded program of many hundreds of millions of pounds. And those that offer it seem not to want to work with people doing any extension type work. If you can get hold of them to ask that question. Pathetic.
Im on the same boat, another one stop shop came back quicker with an insane quote that made no sense. I forwarded al the assesment details so they're working off the same data as the others. €30k to wrap a semi-d where my quotes from companies to just do the wrap were in the region of €11-14k.
Quote for the works. I received the assessment report.
Did they say another 2 weeks for the intial assessment report, or the actual quote for the works?
So just an update, after technical assessment (600€) Iam waiting to hear back from One Stop Shop regarding the cost of the works. I called them after not hearing anything for 3 weeks and they're telling me it will be at least another 2 weeks before I hear from them.
I'm guessing you either quality for a grant or not.
Take attic insultation, if the max. grant available for it is €1,300 then it doesn't matter if you extend your roof, or your current roof is bigger than your neighbours. You still only get €1,300 if you qualify.
Had my technical assessment done. Got the report. It's quite limited, just a table with items to improve and specific recommendations. I am a bit skeptical because the assessor included even brand names of roof insulation, windows and boiler. Surely I should be able to choose the specific brand of boiler I want to have. This table is followed by short summary at the end. This doesn't worth 600€ in my opinion.
Anyway I am not sure what happens if I want to add extension to the house. Would I need specific plans drafted and reassessed.
OSS provider put me in contact with Buildcert to get the intial assessment done. Buildcert will send their report of what I qualify for to both myself and OSS provider. Buildcert are then done and its up to me and OSS provider to agree next steps.
The OSS provider will then manage all grant paymenets on behalf of SEAI through their project management service. This service may include getting contractors to do the work if you are not using your own via your builder. I see 2 scenarios here:
Either way payment for the SEAI work will be processed via your OSS provider.
If you are gettting non SEAI work done at the same time, say an extension, then you have SEAI and non-SEAI payments to consider.
Hi. Can u explain the process for using -snip- and still availing of the OSS please? My reading of the SEAI page is that only registered One Stop Shop can be used.
If you want to avail of SEAI grants you need the 'energy audit' which basically states what grants you are eligible for.
Mine cost €676.50 wth -snip- but I am looking to avail of the One Stop Shop grant scheme so need the entire house assessed.
How do I get email notifications of replies? I used to get that in the previous Boards software, now I have to remember to log in to get any answers. I'd rather get an email notification at the time.
A local BER contractor suggests c 250 on their website for a domestic assessment. Though, they did not respond to my text or email asking for a quote.
A large contractor quotes 700+ for an "energy audit" which they say is far more than a simple BER. I get the impression that they are focused on big jobs.
We'll just go ahead with the Munster Joinery window replacement job (estimate 8 weeks waiting) and get a Co. Council grant and leave the SEAI for insulation until some other time.
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only 30mins for a technical assessment??
We engaged SSE for the OSS in late February 2022, we got an initial quote from them (which was actually based on the old grants) and placed a 800 euro deposit down to get technical assessments done. Since then we have had the technical assessment done (only took max 30 mins) and have had a visit from Munster Joinery. We have yet to see the results of the technical assessment or any new quote using the new grant amounts. is anyone in the same boat or further along than we are?
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