Looks like you called that one right. Not the best of games to watch but a lot of positives in the way they moved the ball, didn’t resort to lumping it.
Couldn’t believe there was no changes when the teams were called out before it started, maybe leahy was going better in training than padraig, couldn’t really fault him, especially for first game this year. Good to see fogarty getting full 70 mins too
Cork are pretty bad for it too particularly Coleman and Fitzgibbon.
Agree with you very much re the throwing. GAA need to make a call on it, decide whether to scrap the rule or enforce it. There's no doubt it's changing the game hugely, bringing it closer to football. A few teams, Limerick #1, are really capitalising on the poor refereeing of it. As long as they get away with it, who can blame them. But the game is poorer for it IMHO.
Yeterday's game was a tense tight affair. The cats won a dogfight against a packed Galway defence intent on stopping the Kilkenny goal threat by any means. Someone must have had a word with Owens at half time as he correctly clamped down on persistent Galway fouling in the second half. Galway were poor and were not at the races and missed some sitters. We mixed it up a bit more in our approach than against Wexford and showed a lot more intensity. Our stand out players, as most have already acknowledged, were Butler, TJ, Mullen and the much maligned Paddy Deegan. It's still criminal not to start Padraig Walsh. Today's Munster final by comparison was different in terms of skill level and matched yesterdays for intensity. Not sure if we could match either of these two teams. However its a different kind of hurling and as we saw in the U20 the Kilkenny fight, tactics and skill downed the Limerick flair. So there's some glimmer of hope although tactics and flexibility may be an issue. I'm sure this Munster final will be drooled over for weeks to come by the adoring media with a great deal of justification. However, I must again raise the issue of blatant throwing of the ball by Limerick. They do this in tight spaces when the pressure is on to get themselves out of trouble. At one stage I counted three in a row. They also do it often to create scoring chances. The referee today (Keenan) was totally blind to this as was Horgan the linesman when a particularly blatant throw was executed just in front of him. Ironically Tom Morrisey who I did not think capable of making a legal handpass executed one just the right side of legal to Hegarty for his truly fantastic goal. That aside, in a tight game these illegal infringements can influence the outcome of games. If we meet Limerick or Cork at any stage I sincerely hope that Cody marches into the Referees room before the match and asks him to referee this infringement as per the laws of the game. All the pundits and commentators (Marty "oh my word" Morrisey included) totally ignore the throwing. It's driving me nuts.
I thought Cody was a disgrace. Unless someone can explain why he is acting so cruel? It seem a bit like a abusive relationship when someone leaves.
It was, but he had a very quiet 2nd half by his standards and thought it was a bad decision of him to take point when goal was on in Extra Time.
If Clare can get a bit more out of Duggan, O'Donnell and Rogers (all rusty), they should beat Wexford and us, and might do Limerick at 3rd time of asking. After two draws there is no question they are very close to Limerick, and most likely team to down them.
Very impressed with Clare, they make very good use of the ball. You would think that they should be good enough to beat Wx and ourselves.
What a game. Outrageous bottle out of TK
Would be great to see Clare win to have a Limerick-Kilkenny semi final just in case one of them was shocked in the All Ireland semi finals.
Agree..we wouldn't be able to keep it pucked out the either of them.
I have no agenda there is two of them in it, Shefflin was involved in a co final when they lost he ran off the field he made the most of it last night.
Henry made the most out of it.
This is some game by any metric let alone in comparison to last night. Ref letting it flow a lot more but the skill level is phenomenal. Hegartys goal outrageous
Eoin Codys mother is Henry's sister. No relation to Brian AFAIK.
Whats the relationship between shefflin and brian cody if any? They mentioned on rte that Shefflin is eoin cody's uncle. Is eoin related to brian?
I watched the handshake thing back this morning. I honestly think cody should of just went over after it shook hands and moved on and there'd be nothing about it today. I do think Henry made a little more out of it by shaking the head and looking for more to be made of it. Barry hickey came over to cody and asked him did u shake hands and cody can clearly be heard saying its up to Henry to come to me.i tried uploading the video but it's too big to upload it said but anyone who goes back and watches it can clearly hear it.
I was dissapointed with galway and said leaving salthill Henry has a huge job on his hands. I thought think there's still a flakeyness in their team. The stamp was dirty he should be cited for it cause he knew what he was at. Richie was hit high twice in that sequence and cooney should of walked altho he done nothing during the match. Flynns one on lawlor was also a red if you're watching the other matches this year.I was delighted to see fogarty back he was a loss around the middle for his workrate.Hopefully padraig will be back the next day. Lads will know in training places are up for grabs and its a very open panel we had lads like fogarty,leahy and browne with nearly no time parachuted in the team. We've got to the semi final the last few years we need to kick on now to show progression.
I still worry about Tommy Walsh. It's hard to believe how far blanchfield had slipped down the ladder after a good league.Lawlor is really learning every trick of a full back and he used all his experience and whelan left the hand on the back and owens had no option but to give a free. It's a worry we scored so little from play but this was an arm wrestle and I'd prefer to win a bad one than lose a good one. We've scored fairly decent to date and got plenty of goals so I wouldn't be overly worried about that. Clare or wexford possibly in a semi final game is a winnable game for both teams but I wouldn't like to go up and get hammered in a final.
We definitely Improved from the last few days altho that wouldn't be hard. We'll be a tough nut for anyone in the semi final.Thank god we didn't revert to route one when the pressure came on so the trick now is to keep the head the next day when the pressure is on.
There is another element to the handshake, Cody speaks about virtues like honestly, respect, integrity etc regularly. He has spoken at business get togethers and other forums and then carries on like that.
I have massive respect for all he has achieved but extremely disappointed by this. There could be something the general public are not privy to either.
Davy can't get past 'dem boys' terminology. Apples and oranges.
I think Cody didn't do a thing wrong after the match. He walked onto the pitch at a 45 degree angle in somewhat the direction of Henry, and was glancing and peripheral vision of what stance Henry was taking. Who would go over to someone with a stance and a scowl like that? And Cody could well be the panto villain if he had of gone straight to Henry with people saying Cody rubbing it in/ can only be honourable when he wins.
I've never seen any manager take the stance Henry had last night. Rooted to the line, arms folded, without even going out onto the pitch to console his own Galway players.
I'd love to know, especially from anyone who could see the handshake live, was the reason Henry was shaking his head because of a photographer or journalist etc hounding him with a question that we couldn't see on tv? Or was it disappointment in Cody?
I've been a critic of Murphy over the past while he was very good last night, a good mixture between short and long(that's all we want, a bit of variety). Our fb line was very good, lawlor will get better after the runout and hopefully Walsh can get get out in front a bit more. The long range pts from Deegan were vital in keeping us ahead. In general, from 1-9 we were solid rather than spectacular. Definitely need to improve up front with our scoring returns. Workrate was good as always, just need a few of them firing more. TJ was awesome from those frees, absolutely brilliant and won the game for us. If a team like Limerick got those half goal chances, they would be buried.
The handshake.....Cody is letting himself and more importantly Kilkenny down by his actions(or lack of). Someone needs to have a quiet word in his ear. Who that someone is I honestly don't know but I'd like to wish him the very beat of luck!!!
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A month gap to the semi seems more of a disadvantage
1st off Thought Eoin Murphy was outstanding last night he has proved once again last night that he's the best shotstopper in the country, he was very measured with his puckouts aswell hopefully he can keep it that way when pressure will come on in the Semi Final...
Backline did all they could have been asked to do great to see Reid and Deegan's use of ball improve massively, Thought game bypassed Fogarty completely being honest but he worked hard as he always does while I'd say Kenny won't see anymore action around Midfield this year....A Mullen was very sharp and looks like getting back to somewhere near his best, Leahy coming in from the cold done well and that 45 mins or so he played will have done him world of Good....TJ very reliable last night didn't miss a beat with frees and won some hard ball when was needed....E Cody was being constantly fouled by whoever was marking him and didn't get enough fair treatment even though we had a higher free count.
We will need to improve massively month's time but they will have good time to work on thing's in training break won't do lads like TJ any harm.
The same set of officials missed Paddy Deegan throwing the ball up and catching it again! As a neutral it was a shocking game of hurling. Before Kilkenny's late scores from play I think it was about 8 points from play to 6 or so. Poor and all Kilkenny, Galway were shocking, their touch was poor, the only real goal scoring chance they had Whelan's pass was very poor.
Cody's antics really showed him up as a bullying moron, against Shefflin of all people, his most loyal lieutenant for so long, does Cody believe that he owns the players that played under him?
One other thing with Cody being forever manager, must be massively frustrating for players that he doesn't rate, no other manager that might see a different use for what you have to offer.
Loads of criticism after the wexford game about our use of the ball.Much cleverer last night and thought we used the bench really well. Galway tried to sit really deep and choke up full forward line but to many of them just let themselves down which isn't anything new.They just seem to be a group who if you let hurl can hurt any team .but not sure they have that real hunger that it takes to cope in real championship.
Ref gave out early yellow cards to Kilkenny players then seemed to readjust how he was going to ref game and starting letting dangerous tackles go without any card.Galway very lucky to finish without at least one red.
We will be difficult team to beat in a semifinal 3in a row completed.with what is possibly our weakest panel in years.is some testament to the spirit of that group of players and management.
Cody /shefflin thing is a side show of little interest to me .media need to move on lohan and davy wouldn't look at each other and it was talked about less
Lots of rubbish on here today and over analysis of a handshake. I do think Cody needs to retire but if we criticise him for lack of tactics against Wexford we have to give him some praise for his tactics today. Kilkenny mixed their ball well got their matchups fairly right. Also Adrian Mullen started wing forward and played there all game so his scores need to included for starting forwards. It's still not a great return but if you want to use stats to criticize at least use accurate ones. I think we will struggle to go further but at least the opportunity is there.
Cody could have walked down the sideline at FT shook hands nipped the silly situation in the bud, instead he choose to walk around the pitch avoiding Henry like someone walking around a nightclub avoiding someone they recently broke up with, as I said on another thread when you factor in the personal grief Henry has recently been through I think its horrendous carry on from BC.
People don't WANT anything in particular. What they do is up to them. But I never recall Brian Cody ignoring an opposition manager immediately after a game. I never recall an opposition manager deliberately staying rooted to his own area immediately after the final whistle. I never recall an opposition manager long after the Kilkenny manager has conspicuously shook hands with anyone he can get to then initiate a handshake and walk away shaking his head after what was said. Didn't strike me as a respectful exchange at all. Nor any indication that this is what drives Kilkenny on to win. I'm sure if it was that easy Cody would blank every manager.
But when something becomes a public spectacle people will comment on it. Especially when the interaction proves conclusively what many of the "move on, tis only the media making a thing out of it" people tried to deny after the last time.
Can't get my head around this handshake how people are so obsessed with it there two men wanting there teams to win it the Kilkenny way "stubbornness" is what drives Kilkenny to win . Not one a these men want to fold it looks that way. Anyway they shook hands what more do people want a big hug and a kiss that ain't going to happen they've too much respect for eachother to do that . Move on
Shocking form by Cody, that relationship is broken anyhow.
Cody has went and shook hands with opposing managers no problem over the years, he often went on a tour of croke park to find Sheedy, and always shook with Davy despite his antics. For him not to have a civil handshake with Henry, it is totally wrong. Seems real bad blood there.
Can't get my head around it, shefflin was the bigger man, he'll be diasapointed with Galway last night though.
Thoughts this morning; Mikey Butler had a great game but Cody failing to make his way to Henry is just embarrassing. What message is that sending out to young people by icons and role models.
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