You've hit the nail on the head, incentive to change.
That incentive can be the carrot or the stick, different ones work for different people. Examples
Most of the above applies for most other options too walking/cycling/PT within the city
Park and ride is over hyped. Only a miniscule % of commuters on any PT network got on at a park and ride location, it consumes massive space and ultimately just moves the problem. Once you are in your car you are driving, there is no incentive to change unless there is no parking option at or near the other end of your journey.
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Be safe out there folks.
Reported. For the simple reason that it has nothing to do with Galway traffic. My determination to utterly destroy (in metaphoric terms, violence is for the protesters to prove their lack of worth with) the objection cartel/racket/system/whatever that has destroyed Galway should I ever acquire the means to, and the statement of long term effects of banishing a “certain type” from Galway as a result of inaction is relevant. Inaction drives people away.
I really hope you're just trolling but on the off chance you aren't please seek some professional counseling. Your posts are coming off as unhinged.
Reported.
Quite ironic that you're homeless but "the power" (wtf) live in your head rent free.
It sneers at me, spits in my eyes and breaks my nose daily, because it’s a human storage unit, not a home. My home is Galway, but there is no room for me. Everywhere else on this island is nothing but a waiting room for the day I leave to find my home in another country, like the thousands before me over the centuries. I am scum to the Power because of how I want to live, and what I want to see built
I’m going further, abroad, when I scrape enough together. If I come back it will be with enough resources to utterly destroy (as you would see it) both Galway & whatever legal delays are thrown in our way.
So, realistically, never.
I am a homeless Galwegian. So it will remain until the Power are kicked back into occupying trees to stop hated building works.
I will die with utter hate for those who took my home from me for their politics. And my children will carry it forward.
How's Baile Atha Luain for overpopulation these days?
I live in Athlone now
Same, lovely spot, needs more bus routes though and cycling infrastructure.
I've been pleasantly surprised by the numbers cycling in spite of the lack of safe infrastructure in Athlone. Have yet to see any kids cycling outside of housing estates though, a real shame as it results in parents driving kids everywhere
I hope you reported yourself for trying to equate traffic jams and children being murdered because of some fantasy scenario you've invented. New low for the thread. Shocking stuff
Reported. I live in Athlone now. I’ve had enough. The scum can do what they like.
You've been "leaving" for a decade
In fairness, I'd say by the time you actually "leave" the ring road will probably have been built.
This here is exactly why I’ve left. Galway needs a population cap for the transport infrastructure it has, and that extends into Connemara. Only a certain type of person would be able to move in (types that don’t require their own transport), and those who do require their own would be on a register, their numbers capped & only allowed move in on a “one in, one out” basis.
Draconian, but it would be the only way to avoid the Dublin-Airport-Security-on-roads situation I fear is looming. I predict that in the years to come, someone will die in the back of an ambulance stuck trying to traverse Galway City, and the story of this will put the problems in stark contrast. We will fail them, as 2A fails schoolchildren in the US.
Population growth for city alone is projected to be 115k by 2031. That increase alone will cause massive transport issues. We ain't see nothing yet
They've been "identifying sites" for the last few years.
It's come up a few times over the last year in council meetings so I'm honestly hoping we're going to hear something concrete in the next few months.
Either way, it will still be years before any actual infrastructure comes online.
Personally I think they could build 7 of these on the major routes into the city
For them to work effectively they would need to be done to encourage usage, with high frequency, reliable journey times and motivation to avoid driving into the city.
To get that they would need buses serving every 10 mins from 6am to midnight, with bus lanes/bus priority at junctions and workplace parking levies (the levies are a proposal already under review) along with vastly increased parking charges with no "all day" or weekly/monthly rates, only hourly.
No doubt they'll do all this eventually but I'm betting we'll all be dead and buried a long time before the city gets to this level of infrastructure.
What could possibly speed things up is if the ring road gets killed in the courts. Here's hoping!
Does seem a bit ridiculous, like what is the hold up almost 20 years after they committed to it?
3 or 4 more of those corridors and some actual cycle network Galways traffic problem would be greatly improved.
I'm under no illusion that it would take longer.
However what is proposed will be built, at some stage, and then left for a decade or more before any further action is done, at which point they'll argue, again that to do it right would take too long, so they'll do a stop gap measure again and around we go.
Sometimes its better to do the harder solution if its the better solution.
Did you read the document? It acknowledges that you say, and points out that would take years. What is planned can be done in months, using the existing land .
Someone asked re the Briarhill bus stop move. I've been in Briarhill BP about 50% for the last 3 months, so have been observing up close and personal. I can see why it's suggested: it's hard for inbound buses to pick up at the current stop and move to the RHS lane, and the outbound stop obscures the view for people leaving Briarhill junction. And it suits me: unless traffic is very heavy or light, I always go to close to where the planned crossing is to cross anyways. But it adds quite a bit more of a walk for people going to Briarhill School or for residents from around there (there are quite a few of both).
Bus lanes right to / through junctions are lovely if there's space. But in the interim, bus lanes what get buses past long queues of cars are a very good first start.
Council workers hanging around Woodquay all day long, waiting for car owners to return and move their cars so they could pedestrianise it. All day long! They should just tow them
It's not true to say that there's no Park n' Ride in Galway. There is an excellent one in Oranmore Train Station.
Obviously though there should be far more, but it's almost as if Bus Park n' Ride is banned in this country. Our friends up North are far more progressive in this regard.
if only
Honestly, if they bit the bullet they could CPO what they need and do it properly. This is just trying to shoehorn in the least effective possible solution that will not fix the problem. They need bus lanes in both directions and bike lanes the same. Bus priority at the main junction, both ways.
The improvements for pedestrians wrt crossing points and narrowing of junctions to force a slower speed through uncontrolled junctions are a welcome sight, more of that please!
Inbound bus lane needs to be closer to the Briarhill junction. Don't need 180m for ALL this stacking. Thats the section the bus needs most priority . I would extend the bus lane for another 150 meters at least.
What ya think about the bus stop placements/changes at Briarhill?
They have plans for cycling listed in the document - but when that will happen who knows!
@Mrs OBumble "The section at the bottom which doesn't have bus lane is because two lanes are needed for all vehicles to position for the turns left or right."
Two lanes are 'used' to position vehicles for left and right turns but that doesn't mean they are 'needed'. It would be totally possible to restrict private vehicles to one queue for both left and right turns, and to allocate one lane exclusively for buses, and that would be granting true priority to buses but it would be taking priority away from car drivers significantly. A choice has been made to dilute the priority given to buses in order to benefit car drivers. Maybe it was the right choice, but it was definitely a choice, not a necessity.
Lots of Parkmore workers travel by bus to Doughiska, Roscam and Merlin Park. A route via BNT is no good for them. Splitting the route would reduce
Not quite sure how you see it as not priority.
There's a priority lane almost the length of the Parkmore Road inbound - which is where the problems arise. The section at the bottom which doesn't have bus lane is because two lanes are needed for all vehicles to position for the turns left or right.
The lack of dedicated cycle lanes (and pedestrian protection from them) bugs me more.
I'll probably get shot for suggesting this but how about a bus only corridor through the racecourse and out onto Bóthar Na Treabh at those gates with lights to allow buses to turn right into town.
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