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The irony of the situation is the that government were the ones that depowered the political institutions, all to protect themselves so that they wouldn't be held accountable. Mainly it was FF that did this during the Bertie era, all got big pay rises and expenses but none of responsibility.
Who do the unions represent and who votes on their decisions? Was it not you begrudging student nurses who worked the front line during covid more pay, to side with the government?
The only exclusionary person is yourself. You are constantly referring to nationalists as 'exclusionary' to make them seem other. Its hateful. Saying you have a friend from work who's a nationalist or not all nationalists, wouldn’t soften that.
Thats not the data we are talking about now is it? How many aren't working simply because they chose not to? We are told these are a problem.
yes our government is doing an horrendous job, but our governments have very limited abilities to deal with our issues, we have successfully depowered our political institutions in helping us provide us with our needs, its effectively in freefall, and we dont know what to do about it
I did produce the data that shows the issue with workforce participation. That you choose to ignore data and evidence when it disagrees with your position isn't my problem.
I would bet money that those questions won't be answered by anyone that supports this government, how could they answer them then that would mean admitting that the government is doing an awful job.
its clearly obvious we re in rapid decline, we re in serious trouble regarding most of our critical of needs, and nobody truly knows what to do about it, its now critical we accept this reality, and stop codding ourselves......
There is a difference between blaming nurses and blaming the nursing unions, the surplus of nurse management positions and the staffing ratios. You can blame those three things without criticising the work of any single ordinary nurse. You obviously didn't understand the point when it was originally made.
However, what is really causing you difficulty is that @brokenangel and myself have different views on issues. This is something that the monolithic exclusionary nationalist culture has great difficulty dealing with. Because they all appear to be conditioned to think in the same way about everything, when they meet others who not only differ with them but differ between each other, they are unable to rationalise the situation.
Hint, If you think insulting the good people we have working in education, health, Garda etc is ok you are sadly mistaken.
We generally blame the decision makers but then we have their lobbyists come in and blame front line staff, who they begrudge pay and holidays to.
Why would I?
You need to have a chat with the person below and ask them what they think about it.
I was making a point that Ireland has some excellent staff working across the HSE etc.
No response on 1-5 so.
I am sure @blanch152 is able to speak for himself/herself. They are entitled to their own opinion so not sure what relevance it has here?
Do you think I am one of the mindless drones on here that just fires out the same message because some political party told me what to think? sorry I am not.
Someone made a post, I just corrected it. So if you want to give your opinion on the services by all means fire ahead.
As we have already seen we have a number of people coming in telling us what the poster meant. It would be presumptuous for most people to tell someone what their opinion is but seemingly not around here.
Mother of God, its not about the good people who work in health care, housing, education, transport, childcare, Crime prevention , it's Government Policies and incompetence that's the Problem 🙄
The actual problems affecting the country for which the present government have few answers
Blanch was blaming the nurses for the state of the health system recently.
Without having to endure a meaningless post with loads of tangents can I ask you this simple question...
What do you think of the state of the following:
1 Health system
2. Housing and Rental market
3. National Debt levels
4. Legal system
5. Corruption and Cronyism in politics
Take your time.
How many have killed themselves?
To say it is the one of our ‘biggest’ problems is a disgrace and an exaggeration and is only said to deflect from the actual biggest problems.
Say that to the people who have killed themselves over online abuse.
Anyway bit of a pointless exercise discussing any online abuse with you as we have seen. So no thanks.
How is it one of the ‘biggest’ problems? The vast majority of online abuse is minor annoyance and vulgarity.
In a small number of cases it is more serious.
There are many many more serious issues tbf.
Majority of it, on a phone so not typing out a long response but very easy to work it out.
We have people in ireland doing incredible work daily and all they can see is this sort of rubbish posted online insulting what they are doing. Time a few people took a long hard look at themselves and copped on to themselves
One of ireland biggest problem is the online mob and trolls which are a complete disgrace
Which part of Healthcare, childcare ,housing ,crime and punishment ,education it's a mess everywhere you look is incorrect?
Incorrect
The country is a Trainwreck whatever the stats say about finances or employment
Healthcare, childcare ,housing ,crime and punishment ,education it's a mess everywhere you look
My point is we don't know. Its the claim people often make but can't supply the numbers. Hence my 'not necessarily'.
Your point has no evidence to support it, making it somewhere below pub talk in terms of seriousness.
Produce the evidence to support your point.
My point is numbers not working is not necessarily a case of people choosing not to as often claimed to excuse poor governance.
The Employment Participation Rate is a really good indicator of how many people actually participate in the workforce.
Everyone likes a system that subsides (sic) people who can't work, other than polemic, not sure what point you are making there.
What is key, is to ensure that the system doesn't subsidise those who don't want to work, as opposed to correctly subsidising those who can't work. For example, a system that results in higher levels of disability claimants that other countries must be suspect at some level, either because people are gaming the system, or the thresholds for disability are different here, etc. At a high level, the employment participation rate shows how a country's population are doing in that regard i.e. are we covering off and preventing the abuse.
With 30% of the population aged 18-64 not participating in the workforce, and when you take into account that most students need to work to finance their studies, that 30% consists of people who retire early, are on unemployment benefit, disability allowance or some other social welfare allowance. That leaves the other 70% to finance the 30%, plus the proportion of the population who are under 18 or over 64, and you probably end up with a situation that on average every person in full-time work is subsidising one person who isn't participating in the workforce for whatever reason, good or bad. That is probably at the limit of sustainability and is one of the problems that UBI has to address.
Does it show the number of people who just don't want to work and still get welfare? I'm happy we have a system that subsides people who can't work.
Unfortunately, the unemployment rate only shows a little bit of the story.
The Labour Force Participation Rate is key. Ireland is in or around the EU average, but could and probably should be doing a lot better.
Gosh, I'd no idea I was living in Utopia, what am I missing 🤔
Literally too many train wrecks to mention
Government doing spiffingly, I think not 🙄
I see Hilagarde Naughton in the news again re a Ukrainian plane landing in Shannon last month.
Always welcome news. We'd a lad on here earlier giving the impression the Irish were work shy and causing problems. Nice to see that myth busted by both reports.
Unemployment rate down as well
