Can you comment without mentioning Rorys Stories? You seem to have a serious hang up still banging on about it a year later
I think its always going to be reasonably the same becasue ultimately they are giving them a small flavour of what the real life selection course is like so the DS arent going to change from how they would run every course. They could maybe change up the events a bit more, perhaps introduce some challenge with weapons or split the group in two and play out a capture/evade event between two teams across the mountains.
If they changed up the location to somewhere foreign like a desert or jungle that'd certainly be interesting. I couldnt see it happening for cost reasons as the credits list the best part of 100 people working on the show. But I did like the way the SAS version changed up the usual Scottish highlands location of previous seasons to the Jordanian desert this year. It brings an extra level of difficulty when they are doing it in 40 degree heat in the desert.
Overall though I think its a good show, its one of the better things RTE have done lately. Im sure we'll all be back here later in the year for the celebrity version, if they invite Rorys Stories back for a second crack the thread is going to explode
I think it's getting a bit repetitive now, they need to switch it up somehow, maybe change the DS's or something.
It's the same kind of tactics. "DO YOU WANT TO GO HOME"...."No"...."WELL GET THE FCUK UP THERE SO!"
Or they'll talk and use a lingo they use....."we call them heat seekers, they bring attention on themselves"
yeah I suppose it is very much context dependent. Id be just thinking if you were captured by some African warlord thats going to be a long and painful death no matter what you tell them or how slowly you do it. But yeah in conventiional war your point about drip dripping till an extraction team can launch a rescue effort makes a lot of sense. Id wonder though if there are many examples of the captured surviving a rescue attempt, would think youd be shot as soon as they realise whats happening. Im sure some attempts are successful with the very best of special forces but would still think the odds are stacked against them no matter how good they are.
The actual interrogation phase on the program last 24 hours, any ideas what that would be on a real life course, would they be at it for 3 or 4 days, or maybe even longer? Would any special forces simulate techniques like waterboarding or electrocution, Im guessing they would have to as part of the training.
Its entirely situation dependent...in the real world.
In general though, it really really depends on the context. In a military context, if an enemy captures a small team, the assumption is that this is a reconnaissance party/group/patrol etc.
This means, other people are likely to know your location. There is usually a "support" or a security element near by. You would also consider that a full team would not be on site without an extraction plan.
It is in the enemies interest to find out where their next threat is coming from, and their associated intents and capabilities.
Hence, drip feed info. As the enemy cannot make a legitimate plan without filling in the unknowns. That makes you valuable to an extent.
What is the best chance possible though? Hoping for a remote chance of being located by your own forces and them executing a successful rescue mission? It would seem the odds are highly stacked against that in the real world
Not entirely accurate.
Torture has been proven not to work, the information gleaned is notoriously unreliable...as people will say anything.
If you are captured, and the person thinks you have valuable information, they keep you alive. Hence, drip feeding is how you try to stay alive longer, to give yourself the best chance possible.
No 11's father knows DS Goggins. You see it on his instagram. Maybe thats why he got so much screen time and got away with so much. When recruit 22 was put in charge you could hear him trying to be heard all the time. Was very condescending. Might be another Rory's stories type partnership on the way
Quite a few have failed in the past during this part in the Irish and British versions. There's usually at least 1 who will fail. Seems like this year they really didn't want those 3 to fail.
Enjoyed it once again but production was not great. No proper introduction of the contestants, some contestants got very little coverage, and very little on contestant background and backstories.
I hope they bring back the undercover guy as a DS, he's very entertaining
Those ds lads are as tough as my last dose of diarrhoea.
Surprised 11 passed interrogation. Thought he'd be pulled over the car Reg and cover letter
Oh it seemed unfair on 23 aswell, it's just that he got so little air time we didn't real get to know him. It was same with guy who bottled it in water challenge.
6 was definitely much weaker than those two if it was about people barely scrapping through.
I'm laughing at the crying baby 'torture' music + lack of sleep, as a mother of a 3mth old sure thats out daily life, so we all pass the survival test!🤣
Watched on the player last night and thought 100% the same. Whatever about the personality, he didn't deserve to get dropped like that before the last part. Same for 23.
Felt so staged and yes I know it is an entertainment show, but that felt too contrived.
Only catching up on final episode now.
Absolutely disgusted they let number 7 go.
He got to end fair and square and was a good team player.
A joke.
Kind of missing the point? It's an entertainment show which replicates some of the techniques used by special forces to pick suitable candidates.
It's interesting to see how much people can take of the various different challenges, what is too much for some people, how people face their fears etc.. Regardless of the "real world", I think anyone that gets to the very end of that event is a very strong individual indeed - and st. The three that got to the end were definitely deserving of their achievements, but it shows that just one thing can break someone - for example the young lad (Buggy was his surname) - he did really well and just panicked in the water.
In the real world their brains would be splattered all over the wall after a round of bullets.
The whole tactics of "cover story, delay, drip feed" wouldn't work realistically as the enemy knows what you're trying to do. You'd likely be getting tortured to get info from them.
No 20 Ellen Vitting is the real deal. Winning adventure races and triathlons for years.
The week isn't comparible to the real selection course. It's a stripped down version of it. You couldn't tell if these 3 would even pass the real selection course.
I was full sure that the DS's were going to come in and flip the table at the end, telling them to get the packs back on because it wasn't over.
I felt sorry for the two guys pulled from the show to make it three. I think it would hurt the most to have to leave just in order for final logistics....seem to always have to be a final 3,
Who’s gonna eat the sandwich after they just eat a tray of the beef stroganoff?? Maybe they take the sandwich home on the bus and eat it in Kinnegad.
So the prize for passing the course is a bottle of Corona and a ham/cheese/lettuce sandwich.
If going on the show you know final day practice should be.
1. Learn how to deflect as long as possible.
2. Concoct 3 or 4 stories of a mission that looks like a military mission but isn't. Practise them.
3. Final step slow drip feed of the truth with the least important bits first.
He was likeable enough and fairly good at everything, compare him with Rory Stories who should have been gone after an hour. Or Valerie Mulcahy taking the piss. I'm losing respect for these DSs. Seem to have agendas.
They may re jig that programme. Obviously very tough for the participants but very poor TV.
Very repetitive. Everyone who goes on it now has the secret to passing.
The final was my least favourite eposide.
Kind of lost interest after 7 & 18 were out.
Still fair play to 3 who passed.
Heard Mayo footballer Padraig O'Hora who completed this 2 years ago saying his sleep was all over the place for a month after it.
Jaysus.
After a week of that hell, I'd be most annoyed seeing them come in with a six pack of Corona Light.
Feck the beers, after that week I'd want a big dirty fry up.
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