I happened to have some old US propaganda pop up on YouTube. I'd watched the one about the Russians before but this was about the Brits. Hilariously in it they mentioned German propaganda lines like "Britain will fight til the last Pole" ya know, like the Russian lackies are doing now. The more things change...
Incorrect, but you already knew that when you posted it.
I asked this before but where are all the militant left-wing environmentalists? In the 70s they loved blowing **** up, those pipelines can't be secure their entire length. Reduce European use of fossil fuels and shorten the war, wins all round.
Russia can't yet gain air superiority, will they ever? Ukraine are bombing their front lines
What do you expect with a lame sleepy duck
Im moving on from this dead end discussion, you should too, the war is far more important than this, people are dying while we squabble over terms and their meanings see below
I think he is reffering to the MLRS systems
And now the US has confirmed no long range rockets that can reach into Russia, and alongside Hungary, Czech Republic and Slovakia are opposing Russian oil embargo. The fantasists on this thread can keep insisting that Ukraine is winning the war but the reports coming from every reliable outlet, all of whom broadly support Ukraine, are painting quite a different picture. It's far from over but it's not looking so good at the moment.
EU nudging slowly towards a likely fudge on oil ban. Not much choice and may be the end product with 2 countries along with Orban, opposed to year end ban. Noteworthy here too, the effects of the Hungarian opposition to other sanctions.
Nothing to stop other countries just not buying oil from Russia. The EU don't dictate where or who you must buy from. Therefore nothing to stop countries just stopping (ala Poland with the gas)
Orban really has come back to life (not in a good way) since the election. There's going to have to be a proper reckoning with Hungary some day, there are certain EU principles that are most definitely not optional.
No, there isn't and it would be welcome but it's an agreed position they want to get so that the likes of Hungary don't do even more as they please.
Don't bow to anything
Orban is ultimately a **** stirrer
In reality Hungary could not survive without eu
They are literally throwing their last hand thinking they backed by scholz
Oh, he's now likely to get very little in the way of structural funds and the article links to a report on the EU withholding a very big chunk of the post-COVID fund allocated to Hungary. Oddly, I think it is lack of EU freebies that will make him want to comply on issues that are non-compatible with EU laws and principles.
I did hear from a friend who works at a pretty high level in Brussels that VDL had a (by diplomatic standards) very 'frank' conversation with him when he was delaying the first batch of sanctions.
My thought is that was just fear of a massive row with the EU and the other members right before his election with some unpredictible results. So he kept his head down.
He came out swinging hard for "Brussels" and his enemies etc. after he was safely voted in again.
He doesn't care now, can go all out toady-ing for the likes of Putin & Xi at the heart of the EU.
I wonder would he have tried to obstruct Sweden and Finland joining NATO too, but Erdogan pipped him to that! I do wonder also was it Hungary's last chance to get rid of him peacefully via an election + he's there as "PM for life" now (lovely)...
Plan B.
Russia fights Russia
I still see nothing about Ukraine having no fight left in them. Your assertion.
They are barely in the place and they are looting it.
That sounds like a scene straight out of a war movie, but very plausible too, especially with an army whose morale is low and things are not going quite to plan.
Nothing to stop other countries just deciding separately as a group and leave Hungary out in the cold. And making it very very obvious that this is the case.
Exactly. I presume though that many of the smaller countries won't do that and will wait to be "dictated" to by the EU and then blame the EU if/when their own people question rising costs/etc as a result of the decision
Including our good selves..
They can start by targeting those pesky pipelines. Then the oil fields in est Russia. Might be a bit of a question about the geneva convention but hell Russia ripped up that book a long time ago. Time to fight fire with fire.
You don't seem to understand just how EU decisions are reached, it's a collective declaration of all 27. Nobody is dictated to anywhere. They can all object and veto. By and large that is not a regular thing and generally used to flag individual issues.
There are three countries who have problems with the proposal, two of whom have indicated they support the concept but will need more time than the end of the year. The EU have accommodated them.
Orban is indulging same carry-on that he can get away with in Hungary. The fact that he has been going on about the billions it will cost suggests he expects the EU will fork out a contribution to it. They won't. TBH all they need is to get a Yes out of him. Once that's done they can apply the sanctions and he can go back to his hole.
Martin prodding Orban on sanctions agreement.
What you and I think should happen is very different from what will happen.
"A bomb will go of and it won't be in Brussels, it will be in Dublin"
Nobody is dictated to 😂
That's great but where will we get oil from and how much extra will it cost us? Just wondering what MM's plan is.
Tayyip Erdoğan hosting talks between the UN, Ukraine, and Russia.... that is one guy I would not trust either at any rate.
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