I see Mary Lou is joining the compo culture brigade with a defamation lawsuit against RTE.
Either way you are wrong and it doesn't give or take from the Morning Ireland segment. That doesn't necessarily make you a liar but you do spout some falsehoods.
I see the MLMD lawsuit is raising alarms in the Council of Europe, along with Daly and Wallace: https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/mary-lou-mcdonalds-defamation-case-against-rte-alarming-41685815.html.
I look forward to the predictable excuses.
Think you got that arseways in fairness. An NGO has raised an alert with the COE.
The COE has made no comment or finding or raised anything.
No harm raising the alert as this maybe SLAPPS but it may also be defamation.
OK, FB, you are technically correct, but the concerns which have been raised with the Council of Europe come from what seems to me to be a reputable source.. Quote from the Indo piece: "The Index on Censorship, a media freedom NGO based in London, said it has filed a media freedom alert with the Council of Europe Platform for the Protection of Journalism and Safety of Journalists."
Clearly I must be very careful not to get things "arseways". I suppose "arseways in fairness" is a bit of a compliment. 😁
Saw that but does it no raise alarms an organisation essentially in existence to represent the press are commenting on a case not even heard 🤔
Whatever about political persuasions, opinions it's a fundamental right for any citizen to persue an action in the courts, wether they succeed or not irrelevant, I just find it odd this organisation making any comments on a case not even heard or arguments put forward. Seems its not really about freedom of the press, more concern for a media organisation IMHO
You should take this for what it is and nothing more - an alert. It is not a finding or judgement.
I did a bit of due diligence on this 'reputable source' and have, as yet found no sign of it raising alerts* about the others accused here of using SLAPPS. Prominent business folk and such.
Do you find that a bit odd?
*I may have missed reference to it.
Well, my take on it so far, Sf are suing RTE and Mary L is the willing vessel. Anyone who Sf deems to be against them will be a target with which they will fire everything under the sun at.
So now NGOs who defend press freedom are also wrong about Mary-Lou's case.
They are pretty much the world authority on press freedom, but Francie believes they are wrong.
I can also tell you that when Transparency International lower Ireland's ranking next year because of this case, Francie will somehow blame FF or FG.
Who said they were wrong blanch? You are making stuff up constantly now.
Well you should read over the available details. I've never seen such outlandish claims and attacks on a person before the case they brought is known. And ironically all under the pretense of protecting free speech.
Are the proponents for mass law suit slaps against media still pretending white is black as regards what programme the law suit is about?
ROFL
More false 'opinion'.
They raised an alert. Made no claim. And nobody said they were wrong, because they made no claim. Making up things to disagree with again.
Good to see that you agree that there is a lack of information from Mary-Lou and SF about this case.
More support for the theory that this is just a SLAPPs case.
Do you believe the NGO?
The subject matter is irrelevant, this is teeing up shutting down the media Putin-esque style once they get into power
More another example of your kangaroo court passing judgement with a lack of detail. Trying to silence an alledged victim.
Retroactively trying to support your false claim. Classic.
Not trying to silence any alleged victim, I want to hear her story. You are defending the intimidation of the media, the oppression of free speech, and the likes of Denis O'Brien and Mary-Lou who push that agenda.
You are contradicting yourself.
Not trying to silence any alleged victim, I want to hear her story.
followed by:
You are defending the intimidation of the media, the oppression of free speech,
You aren't trying to silence the alledged victim yet have decided she's intimidating the media and that because I'm critical of your judge/jury approach, I'm defending that. All over the shop.
and the likes of Denis O'Brien and Mary-Lou who push that agenda.
Here you are convicting the alledged victim after claiming you want to hear her story.
Pull yourself together.
I have already said several times...it may be a SLAPPS and it may be defamation.
Which is all the NGO has done too.
Well pointed out sir!
I'm trying to think of a defamation case where the claimant was hounded to give a press conference explaining themselves.
This is a serious problem. People need to remember the Socialist government lifecycle and when you bear that in mind then this sort of action by Sinn Fein makes perfect sense. Mary Lou trying to shut down media freedom fits in very well into step 7
1 A small number of evil rich own everything and keep the people in poverty.
2 Everything should be equally shared based on need not wealth.
3 The evil rich should, can and will pay for it all
4 The people want this and love us.
5 But the people never vote for this and don't seem to care about us.
6 So the people must be stupid/brainwashed by the evil rich
7 So the right thing is to seize power by fair means or foul and help liberate the the childlike people from the evil rich.
8 But now there actually isn't enough money to do everything we promised before coming to power.
9 The evil rich must be hiding it.
10 So we must seize the property of the evil rich and give it to the people.
11 But that still isn't enough to pay for everything we promised.
12 So we have to just seize everything from everyone and give it to the people.
13 But the people don't like us once we start doing that.
14 So the people must secretly still be under the influence of the evil rich.
15 We must root out the agents of the evil rich who are hiding among the people spreading disinformation.
16 But the people hate us even more now for jailing the people they foolishly see as their friends and family.
17 We must be in a battle against an enemy far stronger and with far greater numbers than we ever suspected.
18 So we must take extreme action against the people to eradicate this infestation from the people.
19 But the people are now rioting in the street.
20 The people are the enemies of the people! Send in the army to crush them.
21 Why are the generals pointing guns at us?
Hollywood is calling?
There are a number of people on these boards who are stuck at the earlier numbers and whose thinking is so unadvanced that they don't recognise where this all ends up.
When it suits 'SF is just administering British rule'
When it suits 'SF are just populists and would do the same in government'
When it suits 'SF are just stealing clothes (FF's or SDLP, take your pick based on what day it is)
When it suits, 'SF have a nefarious plan to turn the state into a military junta'
All over the shiopa in fairness.
Due diligence? What was that? A cursory look at their website?
Even Sinn Fein think that our defamation laws need overhauling and that they are prone to SLAPPs cases. Defamation tourism is a big problem here.
You would think they would discipline their errant member abusing the system in that way.
Are they against people seeking redress?
Nope.
Eh, yes, they are.
They oppose people abusing the defamation law by seeking redress as a means to censor press freedom.
So, as far as we can tell, we have an important international NGO believing that a case being taken by MLMD runs counter to SF party policy.
https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2022/0511/1297466-politics-defamation-awards/
"Sinn Féin TD, Patricia Ryan, said that her party supports the proposed anti-SLAPP mechanism"
It is also important to note that this is now getting international attention in what is not a good look for Ireland. Thank you Mary-Lou. At the end of it all, if she is shown up, you will be back to tell us that you knew from the start that she was doing it to shine a light on Ireland's poor defamation laws and that she was doing it to support press freedom.
https://www.euractiv.com/section/politics/short_news/par-european-rights-watchdog-alerted-after-irish-opposition-leader-sues-broadcaster/
BUT it is the court of Blanch that has found MLMD to trying to censor the press. Nobody else has.
The rest of your post is just made up blanchness in order to have a rant at me. Boring.
No, it is not the court of Blanch, it is the NUJ, it is the written media, it is the broadcast media, it is domestic and international NGOs who are saying that this is a SLAPPs case.
Now, remember, I don't deny Mary-Lou the right to take a SLAPPs case, the law currently allows it, but it is SF policy to change that law, so she is being judged as going against SF policy by a large number of people, including international NGOs and is getting this country unfavourable international media attention. Let her off with her SLAPPs case, but don't tell people they can't call it for what it is.
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