Maybe whats there now is the realistic value. Rarely, if ever do prices come back. And things are still selling so there is no incentive whatsoever to drop prices
Telehandlers don't seem to be selling, especially low houred 320s jcbs, dealers looking for anything from 80 to 100 including vat for them, and in most cases they are sitting in yards at that money, same loaders been advertised that where in stock in 2021
bought a new NC 3000 su agitator there today, was sick of driving to look at scrap used ones in garage,anyone and tips or advice on using one?
I'd say you're right...Just look at the price of new tractors, and they aren't going to be dropping in price any time soon. Used prices will always follow new prices, or be a percentage of the new price...
Recessions and deflation can drop prices.
I bought new in 2018. To trade in now I'd be getting back 95% of the purchase price
Don't remember the last recession here dropping machinery prices by much. Maybe stagnated a bit.
I reckon over time there will be less sold and garages/dealers will switch more to service/repair of older gear
Anything building or construction related seems to be slow to shift these days. If someone is looking for a telehandler they might be as well to hold off. But there could be a big demand in Ukraine for that sort of stuff whenever war stops. How expensive is it going to be to ship stuff there from Ireland with a whole continent of stuff for sale in between here and there? Scrap prices are a good barometer for the economy IMHO.
Foxer use the 1000 rpm pto anyway, you don't need the tractor opened up so that the pto is at 1000 rpm! Be careful with the hydraulics, make sure you have room for the back window and that you know what each lever does before you go near the tank. I think there's 2 rams on them? Sorry but I don't know if you've agitated before or not.
If it's very thick add a load of water to the far end of the tank from the agitator. Free it up around the agitator first, by that I mean don't blast all the liquid stuff to the far end of the tank, leaving solid stuff around the agitator when you start. I find that the wall along the feed passage has drier slurry from stuff being pulled in.
Keep the pto shaft level and keep the outlet from the agitator below the crust. Take it out of the tank every half hour or so, bale wrap, plastic, fencing wire and bits of cubicle mat or broken slats don't go through it very well. The first few minutes are the most dangerous for gas, so don't go in the shed to see what's going on. What tractor will you be using?
100%
People need to realise that for prices to fall the **** needs to hit the fan big time
And that means produce prices falling drastically and lots of cuts.
It's not something anyone wants in reality
will be running it on a Massey Ferguson 5610 (100hp)..not done much agitator work before bofore but often was around one working here
The whole thing is being inflated by companies providing their own finance. If that stopped I think there would be a big drop in prices. Heard a story of a contractor having a 5 figure parts bill being added onto the price of a new tractor and 0% finance for the lot.
I have a share in a double handler with a hydraulic top link, but always found it hard to not tear some bales when flicking them up on their end.(also top link would drop after a while)Would a nugent with a hydraulic tip open work well on front linkage
Trailer is the only job for bales. You need to take at least 10 out of the field at the time. Take them off the trailer and stack them at the same time then.
Too hilly here
Would anyone know is there some kind of swivel you can use if you are using a drawbar ( and pin ) on tractor with a pickup ring hitch on trailer. Seems to be a lot of wear due to the pick up hitch being bigger diameter. ( something like the ball ends on lift arms? )
Thanks for pictures, yes that would take out the play nicely, must try and see can they be got still, wonder why its not full height between two end bits of drawbar ( maybe to allow for up/down pivot )
Wouldn’t be a fan of having those too tight. If one of the rear wheels of the tractor or a wheel of the trailer goes into a hole you could end up with massive pressure on your drawbar pin.
I can't picture it?
Great job for a landroller I'd imagine
If one back wheel of the tractor goes into a hole, it will cause the drawbar to twist/rotate, while the eye of the drawbar of the trailer will still be level as its not in the hole, if there isn't enough slack it could cause the pin to snap.
How much would someone charge to draw in sfp silage? 15 euro.an acre?
Paying €50/hr per extra trailer on a long draw
I'd imagine it would be an hourly rate alright.
The extra trailer will usually be needed on long draws, thus the per acre rate would be a bit of a fools errand
McHale had removable bushes on the eyes of their wrapper drawbars. Around here, some towed them with the Clevis drawer and others on the pick up hook.
Id say that's high if you're talking per tractor and trailer - four tractors drawing would be 60 an acre, 25 for mowing and you're at 85, 15 for raking and you're at 100 without considering loader and harvester. Im pretty certain lads with our gang used to get 5 an acre, probably more now with the price of machinery and diesel etc. 5 an acre per tractor is still 50 an hour per tractor which wouldn't be too bad for running a tractor and trailer?
bought a new mchale here 3 years ago,it has it,absolute pain in the A**e having to keep swapping the pick up hook for the draw bar..keep meaning to cut it out
€50 an hour is the bare minimum ya'd want to be charging
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How many acres an hour? And what do you value your tractor at per hour.
I'd say 7 acres an hour, wouldn't be big output. I was thinking roughly 2 euro diesel, 2 labour, 6 for the tractor. Their be breakdowns etc so hard to tally per hour
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