I think there is perhaps a bit of price gouging or perhaps just ignorance from independent and main dealers atm. Includes not including the grant even though it has obviously been claimed already..
But if the dealer registered the car themselves as a demo it'd be commercial purchase and no grant available?
Definitely lots of price gouging going on.
No, demo is considered an exception. The dealers still claim/get the grant. They get slightly less than €5k but it will be still tagged as having already got the grant. Another grant won’t be claimed when it’s sold on.
That's where I was getting confused so. I thought a demo model couldn't claim the grant.
Seeing as Unkel is always banging on about his Fluence what are people's thoughts on this?
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2012-renault-fluence-z-e-/31211216
Might have a lead on an Ioniq 5 73KW and considering selling my ID3 and the wife's Karoq to move into the larger family car and then have a small run around for my 2KM trip to work.
IIRC you'll need an outdoor socket as the Fluence only charges off a commando plug, not a Type 2
Other than that, assuming the battery is even remotely healthy it looks like a bargain. Almost cheaper than walking for that price
Oh didn't realise it needed an outdoor socket. Could have one installed easily enough and it'd really handy for the power washer as well.
Other opinion I'm looking at is €6-8K on an older Leaf but I'm probably spending far more than I need at that price.
I'll know tomorrow about the Ioniq and I potentially have a buyer already for the ID3. With only 10K km on it it should sell very quickly if they decide not to take it.
Yean there's a couple around where I live and I seem to remember seeing a commando socket plugged into the car. Not sure what the other end is, regular 3 pin plug or a commando plug, but adapters are cheap enough
I think you're right that for the local runabout you don't need anything special, so the Leaf is probably more than you need
Nope, type 1 on both sides of the car weirdly enough
Says for parts on the add so there's an issue of some sort with it
You're right. I didn't notice that when I was looking earlier.
The Fluence charges using a Type 1 cable.
it has a charge port on both sides but had no fast charging.
We have 2 of them in work.
Hardly 😂
It's just a Leaf that can't fast charge but it is much better looking. As Gumbo says, it charges off a type 1 charge point but you can get a type 1 to type 2 adapter (that's what I use). Be careful as the Fluence comes with a monthly lease payment to Renault, which is very expensive. Only a handful of them (like mine) have had the lease paid off so are now battery owned. You will want proof of this.
And you can forget about buying one for around the €2k mark without battery lease like I did last summer 😂
The ad has no descrption other than "For parts"!? 🤔
Is the car dead? That would be a red flag for you, if it is! 😂
Damn I was sure it was a commando plug going into the side of the car, I thought I'd recognise a type 1 from the Leaf 🤦♂️
Then again I haven't slept properly in a month, so not sure I'd trust anything I say at the moment
What kind of servicing costs are owners of 3/5 year old EVs experiencing?
I'm in the garage at the moment getting a minor service on a 7 year old diesel done so I'm thinking about a few years down the road when it's time to change.
Timing belt was done previously so thankfully that's off the list, but this time around it's oil, filters, 2 new front tyres and either an aircon regas or new compressor. Next service looks like there's going to be a lot more. CV joints, rear shocks, front pads and a pair of rear tyres.
While the belt, oil and pads won't be needed with an EV, the other suspension-related items presumably are. New EV owners won't have encountered those costs yet, but owners of 5 year old+ cars will I guess? Based on what I can see from the items on our own servicing costs now and previously, should I expect a 50% reduction in servicing costs with an EV over a 10 year lifetime? In reality, not in theory.
1.5yrs and 50,000km in. Maintenance is more about safety checks and less about servicing:
Had a Leaf24 for 4 years now, bought 2nd had when 2 years old. There's about 65,000km on the clock now
No significant issues, here's a rundown of what happened beyond the basic servicing
That was on top of the regular service cost which is like €125 I think, varies a lot between dealerships
No issues with brakes, suspension, light, steering or motor. Battery health is 85% which is perfectly fine for 2nd car (main car is an ID.4)
I was also pleased to see that Nissan gave it a pass on the emissions check every time 🤣
I did have an incident of tactile parking with a concrete pillar which cost me around €450 to repair, but that's more bad parking tax than maintenance cost
Had two Teslas, zero servicing costs. Nissan Leaf 30, €77/service from main Nissan Dealer.
Does anyone know if there's any good transport emissions calculators? Ones that accept different modes of transport and give reliable answers
I'm in a slightly annoying dilemma at the moment, basically at some point in the summer I would like to travel with the great city of Eindhoven with my family and return a week later. We don't need a car there, so the options are as follows:
So the environmental choice would be to not fly and get the ferry, right? I'll be in Greta's good books then
Except the ferry costs about €200 more than options 1 or 2. Now I get that I'm bringing a car in option 3, which wouldn't fit in Ryanair's carry on, but I only need the car to travel to and from the destination, and that's only because it's cheaper and easier than British rail
That's not counting the extra time and expense of staying overnight on the way there and back. I don't count that as an expense since I'd be expanding the holiday and doing more stuff like seeing London as well. So in the interests of keeping things fair I'm only comparing the transport costs
Funnily enough, I actually have no concerns about charging en route, I've plenty of range and would be doing at most a single charging stop per day
I just find it really annoying that to travel remotely environmentally friendly incurs a massive cost increase, so I'll probably go with flying instead. Greta won't be happy with me 😂
Hence my ask for an emissions calculator, I'm trying to mitigate my guilt somewhat in the process
PS - Sorry for the OT rant 😁
Have you considered that out of all those options, the plane, train and ferry will all be running to a schedule regardless whether you fly/ride ride on them or not. Sure riding on them will probably result in a slight increase in CO2 emissions generated, but Im guessing it is very small in contrast to the total output that will be generated regardless.
The only one you can control is the car ride.
True, but planes need to have an occupancy rate in order to be cost effective. If the %age of PAX is too low, carriers reduce the numbers of flights.
OP, if you drink wine you should stock the car on the way back in Northern France. We save around €200 a year doing that. Or end up drinking more wine...
Ha, fair point, but it's a bit like green energy providers, it'll mean I get to live guilt free 😁
I just think it's slightly ridiculous that we're encouraged to use avoid flying and use public transport, but those options are totally uneconomical when you look into them
The biggest annoyance is that I'd actually quite like to do the driving journey, but I think it'll be quite stressful with the kids (5 and 2 years old) and is probably too much for everyone at this stage
I already have a big enough backlog of booze to get through 🤣
The only way is to sail there, as did Greta to attend a climate summit in USA..😁
(I can offer my services for a suitable fee, but cannot guarantee an arrival time.....😊)
I think you have your work cut out for your either way whether its by car or by air. I like the the driving option as I think it could work well. You could plan plenty of stops around Supercharging. Not so easy when your in a tin can in the sky with a baby that cant equalise! But you get it over and done with once each way. Good luck with what ever way you choose!
Basically I need one of these 😁
True enough, it's not easy going on holiday 😂
I think my wife would prefer the flying option and generally keeping her stress levels down means that my stress levels also stay down
Plus the kids keep asking me to go on an airplane (we line beside Dublin airport, so get to watch everyone else going on holidays 😭)
Ah well, there's always next time for the road trip 😁
I can only imagine the carbon footprint of building that monstrosity.. And the diesel generator when the sun isn't shining.. Would probably make aviation look green in comparison. 😁
