It's far less about challenging the unbelievers, far more about goading them.
Care to explain how wonderful it is for the unbelievers .
Multiculturalism is like a happy clappy religious thing for some. Diversity!! Praise the lord!!! Ever hoping to root out unbelievers and just as based on faith, a faith that doesn't like too many questions it can't answer.
I think so
An open door refugee program its wonderful . Great to see how they harass the locals and be protected . Why does it take a citizen journalist to highlight this !
https://youtu.be/b9n6zw26TjA
Ireland welcomes the ongoing focus on legal migration at EU level and the continued opportunities to work together to create sustainable regular pathways for migration. International migration will continue to present challenges and opportunities into the future. As we explore these issues, the Compact provides a clear framework to manage all aspects of migration. Ireland will continue to support its full implementation.
I'd honestly pay money to interview these types on radio or TV, just to show them up. A few questions alone and the house of cards would quickly fall, because as usual, it's all generalized, substanceless nonsense, that never explains the ins and out of said plans, because in reality there's nothing behind the curtain.
Even in a general sense, if we really cared about democracy in the purest sense, there'd be some place where the people could debate politicians. Once upon a time it was the job of the media, but the media in Ireland are as treacherous as the political class, so there's a massive hole in our "democratic" system. Of course this will never happen, as the politicos know too well they'd be quickly exposed, and whatever power that they've left would be lost. All that says so much about the state of Irish politics too.
What an excellent speech by Minister Browne yesterday at the UN
Speech by Minister of State James Browne at UN International Migration Review Forum
From Department of Justice
By: Minister of State for Law Reform and Youth Justice; James Browne
I welcome the opportunity to join with so many countries at this first international migration review forum, to reaffirm our commitment to working together in international partnership on migration, one of the most significant global issues we face.
Ireland played a key role, with our Jordanian friends, in facilitating the New York Declaration in 2016 that led to the Global Compacts on Migration and on Refugees.
Our world is very different now, but the purposes and aims of these agreements are more relevant than ever today. The Russian invasion of Ukraine has caused suffering for millions of refugees and internally displaced people. Ireland is proud to join others in welcoming and supporting those affected by this, the latest example of a conflict forcing people to flee their homes and countries.
Last month, we held a successful Diaspora Summit in Ireland, concluding with the adoption by Ministers of the “Dublin Declaration”, a future agenda of action for global diaspora engagement. As a country with strong ties to our own diaspora, Ireland is glad to have facilitated this event.
Migration, both inward and outward, has had a profound effect on Ireland and our history. We recognise the unique and significant contributions made by those who come to our shores from other nations, including the role that migrants have played in supporting our economic growth through their hard work, skills and talents.
Throughout the pandemic, migrants have worked in key areas of our economy, especially in the health service, and delivered essential services in our communities. Their work has been vital to the effective management of the public health crisis.
In turn, Ireland has taken action to provide safety, security and peace of mind to those living in the State by automatically extending immigration permissions on nine separate occasions, ensuring that no one has fallen out of permission during these extraordinary times.
We also moved swiftly to reassure people that they could access healthcare, including vaccinations, and temporary payments during the pandemic, regardless of their immigration status. This has, I believe, strengthened our vaccine take-up rate which is among the strongest in the world.
Recently, Ireland introduced a landmark, once in a generation, scheme for the regularisation of long-term undocumented migrants in the State. On 31 January 2022, the scheme opened for six months. It enables those who have been living in Ireland for a specified number of years - in many cases contributing to the economy - but who may have been hindered by their undocumented status, to apply to regularise their immigration permission. The scheme has clear benefits for the individuals and their families, but also for the State itself. The scheme was designed after listening carefully to the needs of the people affected and allows successful applicants to engage fully in Irish society, including in the labour market, with increased opportunities for labour mobility and progression. Furthermore, this participation and opportunities to thrive will empower people to contribute more effectively to their countries of origin.
I love to see school kids expanding their knowledge and experience of other cultures like this. Makes for a very healthy world view
RTE news : School sings 'Stefania' in support of Ukrainian pupils
After Helens amnesty scheme, they will be alot more lauguage students overstaying their visa. Expecting the same scheme to be announced in a few years. All this is doing is encouraging the black market.
In a nutshell a scheme facilitated by government to bring migrants here .
Yup, perfectly legal, so no issue
Why do they want to come here to learn English if not to stay
Ireland has a lot to offer for visitors
How many return to Brazil or wherever when the courses finish few you can get status .
No idea what the last 5 words mean
But to your question, no idea. Ask the Gardai or the govt, possibly the DFA. Its a good question, let me know if you get data on it, would be interested in seeing it myself
Why do they want to come here to learn English if not to stay . How many return to Brazil or wherever when the courses finish few you can get status . The whole scheme is just a way to come here .
Of course, I've said that from the beginning. It's legal, but still a sham, just like the amnesty of the illegals.
So no evidence of any issues then, and, as you say, all legal, all above board
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Of course they are continuing the practices of being part in a visa for money government sanctioned racket. All legal all above board all that, no questioning here, but ffs, let's have some common sense and not insult our intelligence :)
In your opinion
Or do you have any evidence to show any of the current schools are continuing the practices from pre-2014?
Every single English language school is a sham school. Every single one of them. They may follow the rules (which they probably lobbied for) and they may be vetted by the Guards and all that but traveling from South America to Ireland to learn English is just a pretext to get a visa and everyone knows that. There, hope it's all clear now.
Sigh, again, ok
Do you even read these links lol
My posts were prompted by your reply to a poster demonstrating that such scams did not exist and looking for proof . You now claim that you recognise scams existed but all such scams have been addressed since 2016 .
Yeah, wasn't aware of them until someone posted the details here. Looked into it, saw the report, saw the actions taken, saw the results of those actions.
So yeah, was an issue, has been fixed.
If you want to keep banging the drum about an issue that's already been fixed, go ahead, but I don't see any point in engaging further on it as you don't seem to be able to show it is still an issue now.
What do you think will happen once the Doorley's have served their sentence??
1) They'll be told to leave Australia and set free to self deport, yet be allowed roam the land as deportations "are complex"??
or
2) Put on a plane out of Australia as soon as their sentence is over??
Any Irish person who overstays a visa, or commits a crime in another country should be deported back here.
https://www.independent.ie/news/teacher-who-falsified-certificates-in-order-to-work-in-ireland-says-he-got-caught-up-in-a-terrible-web-of-lies-41512115.html
A few more links since that period that show scams . I think other scams will likely surface in future .
'' Really? never heard of it. Surely if its so well known there must be more than just your post that has details on it. Are there any stats, or govt reports etc or is it just heresay and anecdotal ranting? ''
Why would I, I commented on the links you shared the first time.
My only comment on your new links is that yes, there were scams, which I already acknowledged were identified in the 2014 report and closed because of the actions taken as a result of that report. The controls implemented since then make it virtually impossible to run a scam school as Gardai have to sign off on each student at the end of their exams and all school records are subject to search and seizure at any time.
You have anything since that time period or are you going to keep pointing at that issue which has since been addressed?
its not the "gotcha" you think it is simply because it has been addressed and those scams have all been shut down.
I doubt you will see any poster defending them .
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/language-school-blames-closure-on-visa-scams-qs93rjxpj
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/visa-abuses-at-colleges-set-for-probe-by-gardai-30392266.html
https://www.eazycityblog.com/international-student-scam-in-ireland/
https://www.independent.ie/opinion/comment/english-language-schools-shouldnt-help-facilitate-illegal-immigration-31256798.html
The schools were closed because they were fraudulent . You forgot to mention that !! I doubt any students would have reported the illegal activity as it was to their benefit .
Exactly. Nobody on this thread has suggested otherwise regarding Irish criminals in other countries. I'd also have no issues with the US deporting illegal Irish immigrants from there.
I think I've heard the justice minister (or maybe someone else, not really important) speaking about justice reform and moving towards a victim centric justice system. That is the focus being on the victim, not punishing the criminals. Because this is how things work in the la la land.
Irish criminals have never once been tolerated by any poster here. They should all be deported from whatever nations they commit crime in. This has probably been said hundreds of times on this thread, yet as usual, you're pretending that that's not the case, and acting like we think that they should be treated differently. It's so dishonest, so disingenuous, and at the end of the day all it does is reflect poorly on your own character, as you're simply making stuff up in the name of a "gotcha". In reality, you're fighting against a caricature that exists in your mind only.
Shocking antics by these foreigners, they should be deported.... Oh wait
Three men from Ireland and the UK jailed for running roof repair scam and swindling elderly Australians out of €288,800
In pursuing a right to remain in the State, the applicants claimed they would be persecuted or killed if they returned to Pakistan because they have a
child together out of wedlock.
But also:
The judge noted that, despite the foregoing fear, the man obtained a false marriage certificate for the couple to get a Pakistani birth certificate for their child in order to enable visits to family.
So they fear they will be killed if going back to Pakistan but also they go back to Pakistan to visit family. And this happens with a lot of these asylum seekers, they claim they will be killed in their own country yet that's the country they usually visit.
I would say good fekin riddance if only I would know they will be actually deported.
A perfect example of how not to do it
You're not the only one
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