Ah here, don't let logic get in the way of the (motorists) comments above.
How do you propose the police charge them if he did?
He's calling him out for what he is. Pompous self aggrandising lady part. He could and should quietly report people if he wants to. All this confrontational grand standing is purely for thumbs up - I mean you can not even make a disagreement to him on his channel.
But he doesn't threaten to report them to police like he does with the drivers
Fairly biased video from Ashley, Mikey regularely calls out other cyclist for going wrong way on that junction and also salmon when he encounters them. To claim he doesn't is 100% wrong.
i just saw this thread and watched a couple of videos of him jumping out of a bush, i can't believe someone hasn't lumped him out of it, one day he'll do it to the wrong person
Have unsubscribed from Ashley - one of his recent videos targeting cyclists.
The clip from Mikey at 5:30 shows him in a bad light. He does this while moving, tries to distract and infuriate (failing miserably), follows up while the driver is moving off, cuts across to turn left. This I disagree with. Once it had been pointed out, she immediately stopped and moved off. The event was over, following her down the road while she is driving (different if she was stationary) and shouting is not safe or smart. No issue with CM in general but that type of behaviour doesn't strike me as safe or particularly useful. I also don't particularly like Ashley, promoting ditch to ditch driving to reduce car wear and tear is as stupid as those people who won't run their dims during the day as the bulb won't last as long. It's a false economy and actually just muppetry.
Hmm this is interesting alright.
I generally agree with a lot of what Ashley says. Pro education and safety. And I've repeatedly said that I do believe arguments/engagement with drivers doesn't do much to change behaviour (not opening that can of worms again...) but I do think Ashley contradicts himself a little. I believe he does have a little bit of a chip on his shoulder with regards to cyclists (but works hard to hide it..). It's a little disingenuous to say Mikey doesn't call out fellow cyclists (he does actually do this). Wee bit sneaky to complain about people creating us Vs them situation, while piling in to do the same..
Yeah Ashley can be a bit preachy at times but generally has decent content on his channel. The one he mentions he had to reupload due to a privacy complaint is well worth a look 😂
Pretty balanced view of Mikey's videos here. Ashley himself can be a bit pompous but in fairness he's very level headed and does give good advice.
The problem you are encountering is the very nature of platforms like Twitter/YouTube?Facebook don't lend themselves to reasoned argument and seeing both sides of things; you pick a fu(king side and defend/attack irrespective of the merits on either side.
If you ever try and have a discussion about reducing your risk of almost anything but especially as a cyclist on here or the mentioned platforms, the immediate discussion killer 101 is normally pulled out in that you are victim blaming irrespective of the merits or otherwise of your argument.
Cycling Mikey will get more traffic the more he engages with drivers; whether his goal is traffic and likes/shares or money it doesn't really matter. Once he gets people angry or annoyed he will drive traffic.
In the last clip linked there was a lot of people on phones, but he chose to engage with someone to get a row going rather than passively reporting as many as possible isn't much of a watch.
Interesting essay here from last month, if long and way off topic, on American politics but with a section commenting on the real world outcomes arising from recent trends on social media platforms
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/05/social-media-democracy-trust-babel/629369/
And besides, like I say, many of the posters on this site could definitely do more for their own safety. The anticipation skills are often absolutely dreadful on the near misses thread. It's cringey. As I have said, repeatedly, this is not a boolean. People can do more for their own safety AND also report drivers etc.
I don't know why you are missing that point? I can't really simplify it any further tbh.
The only real issue I have is people that get into roadside arguments. That's just moronic to me, but some of ye just love it.
Nah you are mixing many issues here and being very obtuse about it.
"Going by your logic".. yeah cool. I don't know how many times I've made clear that drivers should be reported. I think people just love an argument tbh and have no real interest in road safety or getting better.
Good luck and stay safe everyone.
Leading by example doesn't work,
Take speeding or mobile phone use, lots of people don't do it when driving. But does it make a difference to those that do. Nope, not for a second.
Enforcement is the only way to get people to change, putting the onus on cyclist to cycle perfectly as a means to improve motorist behaviour is just laughable. As I've already pointed out motorists get outraged by perfectly legal things cyclist do....but you've ignored all that.
Using your logic Gardai shouldn't monitor speed and we shouldn't have speed vans. Instead other motorists should just lead by example and not speed. That'll sort out the issue.
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And besides, in no way I have indicated that I condone bad driving. I'm not against reporting bad driving (I'd wager I've done so more than most here). I've been the victim of terrible driving (nerve damage that took years to heal, not quite fully) but when it comes down to it, you will not "educate" a driver by waving your pinky at him to insinuate they have a small dick.
I didn't say don't report, I said the biggest bang for buck is leading by example and practicing being a better cyclist. Frankly I think there are a lot of terrible cyclists that post here and they could do a helluva lot more to up their own game. This is not mutually exclusive to crap drivers having to do the same...
Actually I can answer now, what the **** has it got to do with my simple claim that it's far better not to get into arguments with **** drivers (or worse, antagonise them by making assertions about their manhood?)
I'm sick of this us Vs them crap. I also run, cycle, walk and drive.. but yet I've still got to be pigeonhole based on assumptions by boards.ie users.. it's madness!
Actually missed it. Had to scroll up to check your comment was for me. Thanks for flagging it, I'll read it when sober and reply then.
Ignoring Cabaal's post because it's not convenient?
Sure, you do you! I'm good for getting into arguments with randomers (except on here yif course..).
It's not even the challenging, it's the antagonistic style. Besides, I said you would get more bang for your buck on being better. Once again you take part of the statement and run with it out if context.
We could do both- practicing better cycling AND challenge dangerous drivers directly to make it socially unacceptable.
So if every cyclist cycled perfectly drivers wouldn't have a chance to act the way they do?
Honestly, what world do you live on?
The following things are wrong in many drivers views:
You claim you are not victim blaming but you are doing exactly that and everything I've listed above is legal to do.
The reality is that even if cyclists break every red light in the world that doesn't for one nanosecond make it ok for ANY motorists to try run cyclist off the road in an aggressive manner, to drive with a mobile or to speed.
As a motorist, cyclist, pedestrian and runner I have no issue with reporting dangerous behaviour by anybody, the reality shows that most of that dangerous behavior is from motorists so they deserve to be punished for endangering others.
I'll give you one example, last week I videoed a speed sign for 1hr, over 60% of cars passing exceeded the 50km/limit, several of them exceeded 70km/hour. Every one of them was entering a school zone!
Stop victim blaming and making excuses for **** driving,
And you know what, most of the clips I see we posted on boards, are just situations I don't get into.
Mikey is separate as he is doing a campaign, but for the casual commuter that posts on near misses, I see some dreadful failures in anticipation skills. You will always have **** drivers. You won't change that. You certainly won't by having a road side argument or calling them small dicked. You will have more success by reporting them, but Ireland is a **** show.
But by practicing better cycling is the most effective bang for your buck change you can make. If every cyclist upped their game and led by example, drivers wouldn't have a chance to act the way they do. This isn't victim blaming it's just controlling what you can and not trying to make a right from two wrongs.
But if some of ye don't adjust your attitudes on the roads then you will be forever stuck in this angry us Vs them bullshit.
No. That's your interpretation.
But you'll keep giving drivers another chance, for some strange reason.
Lol you've some attitude and your black and white "tug the forelock" rhetoric that you keep spouting is really telling.
It will absolutely place a ceiling on your ability to become a better road user.
I'd also point out that if these assumptions were in anyway directed at me then you would be completely wide of the mark.
I have reported, I will continue to do so, I'm a pretty strong and assertive cyclist (and driver), you just won't see me going on about it... And if you allow your dog to deliberately crap on my lawn you wouldn't be getting another chance 😆
How do you know where he's going or what he's doing? Do you have access to his diary or what?
People are indeed absolutely allowed not to like him. As noted above, the most obvious action for those people is not to watch his videos.
People are indeed allowed to watch his videos AND complain about him, just as others are allowed complain about the complaining.
To me, the complaining is real 'hurler on the ditch' stuff, people who've never considered reporting a driver or engaging with a driver, people who think cyclists should keep their head down and tug their forelock and say thanks to the nice motorist for not killing them today. It reminds me a bit of the tone policing evident during the real campaign, all the old men telling the young women they had to be nicer to the men who wanted to control their bodies, be more reasonable, not be obstreperous. We all know how that worked out.
He does what he does. I don't like everything he does, every sentence, every gesture, every quip. But I do know that he's made a vastly greater contribution to road safety than his entire army of critics put together.
I'm more surprised at how much people here care, I don't watch his videos as they grate on my nerves a bit. If they annoy you, stop, if they don't great. He is only a danger to himself as far as I can tell, nothing he does, to the best of my memory has endangered others.
I"m still not seeing the issue, if he decides to go out for a spin just to catch idiots on phones why exactly would that be a problem?
They shouldn't be on the phones to begin with, its easy for them to not get fined/pointed.
yes of course. That's the overwhelming majority of people on heres augmentt - that unsafe drivers should be let off...
Seriously.. where on earth did you pull that sweeping statement from? :D
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