Always the same, whinging and complaining. There hasn't been a single positive contribution by Sinn Fein to the life of this country in the last ten years.
Oh look Sinn Féin objecting to housing again. Every plan for new units you are guaranteed to see a Sinn Féin politician with an objection.
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/construction/tds-support-locals-concerns-over-marlet-s-63m-howth-apartment-scheme-1.4877884
Most people in the country did not'come round' to Sinn Féins position on Brexit or the protocol
Most people in the country were always of a pro EU disposition
Sinn Féin on the other hand campaigned against every EU/EEC referendum that ever was,including membership
So taunting someone here as to 'coming round ' to SF's position on the EU or the protocol is a tad rich,when in reality it's SF that has done a Volte facè on Europe
For me, all I have an interest in is what the unionist position on the protocol is and whats the big issue with it. How exactly we can sort the problem out
It looks like you are completely ad idem with Sinn Fein on this, good to see you (to be fair most of the rest of the country were already there) coming around to their position on this.
I know the Brits may not be the pefect example to be quoting when talking about governmental embarrassment on the international stage but here is a list of ex gunmen and bombers in their government (I hope I am allowed to post this - it can be very challenging knowing right from wrong here)
Leo Docherty
Dan Jarvis MBE
John Baron
Bob Stewart
Chris Green
Tobias Ellwood
James Sunderland
James Cleverly
Ian Liddell-Grainger
Darren Henry
Simon Hart
Iain Duncan Smith
Jason McCartney
Gregory Campbell
Jack Lopresti
Sir Edward Leigh
Adam Holloway
David Davis
Mike Penning
Robert Seeley MBE
Philip Hollobone
Jeffrey Donaldson
Flick Drummond
David Davies
Desmond Swayne
Dr. Julian Lewis
Steve Barclay
Bill Wiggin
Andrew Bridgen
James Gray
Clive Lewis
Johnny Mercer
Penny Mordaunt
Mark Francois
Crispin Blunt
Royston Smith
Richard Drax
Andrew Selous
Dr. Andrew Murrison
Andrew Mitchell
Tom Tugendhat MBE
James Heappey
Andrew Bowie
Stuart Anderson
Sarah Atherton
Steve Baker
Ben Wallace
Euan Geddes, 3rd Baron Geddes
John Eccles, 2nd Viscount Eccles
Simon Arthur, 4th Baron Glenarthur
John Astor, 3rd Baron Astor of Hever
Robin Bridgeman, 3rd Viscount Bridgeman
Roger Swinfen Eady, 3rd Baron Swinfen
Arthur Gore, 9th Earl of Arran
Rupert Ponsonby, 7th Baron de Mauley
Hugh Trenchard, 3rd Viscount Trenchard
Charles Cathcart, 7th Earl Cathcart
Thomas Ashton, 4th Baron Ashton of Hyde
Alan Brooke, 3rd Viscount Brookeborough
Raymond Jolliffe, 5th Baron Hylton
Merlin Hay, 24th Earl of Erroll
Patrick Boyle, 10th Earl of Glasgow
Nigel Vinson, Baron Vinson
Jeffrey Sterling, Baron Sterling of Plaistow
Nigel Lawson, Baron Lawson of Blaby
Robert Dixon-Smith, Baron Dixon-Smith
David Hope, Baron Hope of Craighead
Kenneth Baker, Baron Baker of Dorking
Tony Christopher, Baron Christopher
Tom King, Baron King of Bridgwater
Michael Heseltine, Baron Heseltine
Ken Maginnis, Baron Maginnis of Drumglass
Michael Boyce, Baron Boyce
David Ramsbotham, Baron Ramsbotham
Clive Soley, Baron Soley
Brian Cotter, Baron Cotter
John Burnett, Baron Burnett
Richard Harries, Baron Harries of Pentregarth
Michael Walker, Baron Walker of Aldringham
Alan West, Baron West of Spithead
Robin Janvrin, Baron Janvrin
Richard Dannatt, Baron Dannatt
Jock Stirrup, Baron Stirrup
John Boyle, 15th Earl of Cork
Mark Lancaster, Baron Lancaster of Kimbolton
Andrew Robathan, Baron Robathan
Richard Benyon, Baron Benyon
Thomas Coke, 8th Earl of Leicester
Ruth Davidson, Baroness Davidson of Lundin Links
David Hacking, 3rd Baron Hacking
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for a good man to do nothing - that's you
Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country - that's you Charry
There’s nothing I can do, but there’s plenty we can all do.
roll out the red carpet for them. Eoin Bomber O Broin ffs
What are you going to do soon Charry, to stop the gunners and bombers getting into government
Whether Sf like it or not there always has been and always will be a good number of people in Ireland's north and south who understand the unionist position and don't mind Donaldson's current stand on the matter [protocol] in Northern Ireland. Pout and posture all she likes but ONeil and her pally friend what's her name from Dublin well soon be old news.
For me, all I have an interest in is what the unionist position on the protocol is and whats the big issue with it. How exactly we can sort the problem out and maybe get this message out in the Republic good and propper instead of the steady feed of Sf codswallop from RTE.
As for the EU and the USA they have their own agenda when it comes to Northern Ireland.
All I hear from Sf is grandstanding and blustering straight out of Russia's RT news on Putin's greatness and so on.
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Would you like to go back to the 1980's ?
It wasn't pretty
You're joining my ignore list no disrespect
But I've no time for the unrealistic
I disagree, not only all that you just said but there are also convicted terrorists in Sinn Fein who would still be in prison to this day and to the day they die if not for the GFA.
Leading Sinn Fein member Gerry Kelly bombed a court house in London and sent to prison, he then took part in one of the biggest prison escapes in recent history shot a prison guard and stabbed others and now he is a leading member of the biggest political party in Ireland North and South!!! It’s a bloody joke.
Sinn Fein had and have so many IRA members in their ranks but then again why wouldn’t they? They are basically the same organization, plus the only reason Sinn Fein have gotten this far is from IRA money and influence.
they do know, they don't care as all sides have committed to peace.
there is nothing you can do, SF will be in government and you need to prepare for it and come to terms with it for your own sake.
To be honest,thats nonsense
They have living victims yes
They laud the perpetrators as heroes yes
But let them at it and move on
Theres a thing called common sense and whilst I may disagree with a lot of SF's take on things,I've the common sense to know that being bellicose is a condition of being in opposition
Government changes that
Coalition programmes in the round are usually palatable despite some things you don't agree with
As I said before, wishful thinking. I’ve heard that sort of stuff every election for the last ten years and they always do better than believed beforehand. A few years ago I’d fully believe what you said but now I’ve become disillusioned and am expecting the worst.
Most young people don’t know about the atrocities carried out by SF/IRA, I know RTE and the newspapers try their best to make people aware of this but I feel like young people aren’t really watching RTE or reading newspapers these days so I think we need to raise awareness more on social media rather than the usual methods.
Facts are if we don’t do something soon we are going to end up with gunmen and bombers in government. What an embarrassment that will be on the international stage.
Sinn Fein have been slowly rising since they got the most votes in the last election in the republic with 24%, they are currently polling now at 35 percent and it’s still a while until the next election. On top of all that Sinn Fein usually always do better than the polls suggest.
Honestly as much as I hate to say it, I really believe Sinn Fein will get between 40-45 percent of the vote in the next Irish election. We need to make people more aware of Sinn Feins history with the IRA so that people realize who they are voting for.
I see
So government with SF means nirvana and an end to the permadisappointed
Thats a 2nd fanny for my other former uncle so
SF are within the margin of error at the same support level as last October,8 months ago
Their future is in a coalition government, probably with Fianna Fáil
SFFF
they will be in a coalition at first yes, i have no issue with that as they will hold their counterpart to account and force through the necessary reforms and law and order policies they wish to implement, and i don't have a problem with that as they will be in government north and south, baby steps.
but they won't lose votes and they will eventually be in government singly.
the EU fiscal rules won't have anything to do with the type of government SF will be in as SF are the party of fiscal responsibility anyway and their policies don't conflict with those rules.
not at all, it's simple fact.
As I said before this is all just the kind of crap we keep telling ourselves after every Sinn Fein election. We need to stop deluding ourselves if we want to actually deal with the problem. Sinn Fein are rising and there’s nothing to suggest they will stop. Personally as much as I hate to even say it I honestly believe Sinn Fein will get at least 40% of the vote next election. They are currently polling at 35% and they always do better than the polls suggest.
That's what they want you to keep believing.
Aye... and if my uncle had a fanny,he'd be my Aunt
SF will be in a centre coalition and will lose the 10% perma protest vote
They'll be in any government that they can negotiate themselves into after that as other parties see how they get on
These will be centre government's thanks to the EU fiscal rules
I've no problem with that
it's only a very slight creep really, so slight that it's a non-issue really.
I'm unsure if you've noticed the SF creep towards the centre, they'll likely be FF-lite while pursuing a united Ireland if/when in power.
they are and will....and sooner than you think.
because they were irish and they were trying to remove territory from the remaining british empire.
the country will be fine and SF are more fit for government then FFG.
both FF and FG were involved in very similar actions to sinn fein, just that their activities were a few decades earlier.
Not the same thing whatsoever, Sinn Fein was basically a part of the IRA during the troubles, they were the political wing of the IRA with many members holding dual membership, Sinn Fein was always under control of the IRA.
Over 50 Sinn Fein members were assassinated during the troubles most of which would have been set up for assassination by MI5. Why do you think that would have happened? I supposed you think they were targeted for their so great economic policies🙄
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