https://twitter.com/MuhammadSmiry/status/1522290685910691850
Surely there should be sanctions put on Israeli citizens like they've done on citizens, they should be banned from sporting events and their products should be boycotted in addition no country should be selling them arms to massacre and toture people. They'd wise up very quickly if this was done. Shame of a country
Is this how Hasbara hopes to win hearts and minds?
You haven't provided an up to date map of the legal borders of Israel nor a chart of them across the 40+ years you've casually mentioned now have you? Let's see it. Does it include the West Bank?
You didn't just post this, did you? unironically? wow. I thought it was only 6th form kids that still think this map is accurate or real.
Wow, it’s clear to me who the real nutters are and the useful fools that excuse their actions, and it’s not the Israeli’s. Try living in a predominantly Muslim country and practice your own faith, or be openly gay and see how far you get.
Ah shur that's exactly how people felt about Ashli Babbit, you definitely see the Zionists and their Logic applied there to place blame on the rioters there and not with the LEO who shot her. /s
Which part of the video do you disagree with? you can see the ally. You can see the carpet. It leads directly to the street where the journalist was killed.
If you watch the (disturbing) video after she is hit, there's shooting is still coming and it's coming from the direction down the road which correlates to the ally way.
And it's too much of a coincidence that they're shouting about having downed a soldier.
This to me is the most compelling yet. Coupled with refusal to share evidence, and it's now heavily leaning towards palestinians mistaking her for a soldier. Probably because of her helmet outline.
Hasbara, I don't follow
Are you still going on about unverifiable geolocation data? There's no independent chain of custody on that.
Everything you say in this regard applies to both sides of the conflict from respective perspectives.
I agree that it could be either side.
But...
At the moment though given that the palestinians are refusing to cooperate with an investigation including with 3rd party oversight - it suggests to me they know it was them. It would take Israel about 5minutes in a lab to tell if it's one of their rounds.
That video is much more compelling than the eyewitness accounts which initially claimed it was close range fire where soldiers were in plain sight shooting them, then claimed it was sniper fire when the first story wasn't adding up.
Basically either side could have killed her but the responsibility lays with the terrorists who started the shooting in the first place.
Israel, the size of Wales. Smaller today than it was in 1980
Muh expansionism
People starting to close in on the latest palestinian lie. Geo locators working over time.
It seems that initial video of the palestinians claiming to have hit a soldier may very well have been them hitting the journalist. They were adamant they hit someone and you can tell by the excitement in their voices.
It's becoming clearer that they saw her drop and assumed it was a soldier.
Terrorists always find some way of justifying their actions, they’re all the same in my opinion.
generally the biggist supporters of israel are islamaphobic in my experience, and they only stand with israel because it isn't a muslim state yet the victims of it's behaviour are.
mind you i do wonder how they would feel if it was just brown jews living in israel, would they have the same viewpoint, that must be such a conundrum for them.
Why do you think this campaign is being conducted?
no the actions are taken as part of a campaign of apartheid, ethnic cleansing and colonisation with the aim of extending israel's territory and changing it's borders, as israel does not believe in having borders.
See from a few of the recent posts I started thinking that he was pivoting from "That's Antisemitism" to "Try a Slice of my Islamophobia" to try and make his points.
oh they know that it is not what anti-semitism is, but they screech anti-semitism over anything in relation to israel because they think it will frighten people into staying quite.
but it is not working and they are struggling with this so are just doubling down on the same failed tactics hoping they will work on someone.
Could you quote or link to these eyewitness statements contradicting themselves and each other??
Yes why would a clearly biased/conflicted journalist try and cast aspersion on the Palestinians. Mystery.
The person you quoted is the Principal of an Org who is a supporter of the Abraham Accords, a zionist initiative.
I wonder why people question the veracity of claims made by Qatari regime state media mouthpiece AlJazeera. They make Russia Today look legit.
Good luck to them.
Here's Ecuador. https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ecuador/@-4.6832327,-72.7733825,4.5z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x902387dda89a4bd5:0x9d76af04119c3702!8m2!3d-1.831239!4d-78.183406
They have about 8 billion barrels of proven reserves of oil (barely enough to supply the US total demand for 1 year), so I don't understand what the relevance would be.
Bad news for genocidal Islamist Jihadists and their Dublin-based cheerleaders.
Israel making inroads in South America, which has always been a difficult region due to many of them being commies and into Arab oil.
So it's completely outside the capabilities of an elite commando unit to fire less discriminately huh.
I suppose if I blended in with some Stormtroopers say, what would give me away is my complete inability to pretend to be a horrible shot with a blaster
"These blast-points... Only Imperial Stormtroopers are so precise." - Obi-Wan Kenobi
Another interesting little titbit is that the Israeli unit in that area wasn't just standard conscripted soldiers on patrol, but a commando unit. Much more calm under pressure, much more experienced. The idea that they would not only fire once, but continue firing towards the journalists (with relatively inaccurate fire judging by the video) suggests more of a general firing in that direction. Not the hallmark of commando units.
Innocent people don't withhold evidence.
Israel is an Apartheid regime, an occupying force. We suffered from an oppressive colonial British regime in Ireland.
This is Ireland's history
And right back straight away to presuming guilt, immediately after a virtue signaling post about criminal justice philosophy.
The matter will remain inconclusive as no one will ever discover the rifle that fired the weapon.
Truth bombs 💣️
The longer this goes on, the more palestinians will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. In a tight spot now. If they concede to an investigation, they'll get found out. If they don't, they look guilty anyway.
it's the 3rd rail of US Politics. I've been banned from even fairly like minded social media groups because the admins were Jewish American etc. and this was a bridge they wouldn't travel on - if the news wasn't wholly backed by Israel and the US State Departments etc. then they refused to entertain it. Talking about Israel engaging in Apartheid was just a bridge too far for them and they censored the whole thing.
Anyone screeching "anti-semitism" at the points raised in this thread isn't remotely interested in an honest discussion.